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The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Johnny Truant
Swing Joined: 9/13/22
#25The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/15/22 at 8:56pm
Well, BoringBoredBoard40, I can't disagree with a lot of what you wrote, but somehow I still had a really good time. Part of it may be growing up with what I consider the "core" three movies, but I laughed a lot throughout the show. Little things like Clark's lyric in one song that was something to the effect of him feeling like he was stuck driving circles around Big Ben had me cackling, but I realize this would mean nothing to someone who isn't fairly familiar with European Vacation.
However, I didn't find the score to be forgettable. I can easily recall the melodies to the few songs or themes we heard more than once ("Vacation," "Wilson!," "The Battle of Ellen Hill," "Love is an Island"
. Like any show, there are always a couple of numbers that feel like throwaways to me, but I believe the case here is that most of the songs tend to be shorter with melodies we only hear once. I'm confident after seeing the show again, most of it will stick with me. Now, Marie, Dancing Still or Austen's Pride - those were some truly forgettable scores in recent memory. And it's leagues better than the score for Mrs. Doubtfire.
The show is closer in tone to Vegas Vacation than the earlier movies. Which is fine but not optimal - that movie grew on me, especially when not trying to compare it to the others. Those earlier films had an edge - a bite or a meanness to them that is definitely not present here. This show called to mind The Producers more than The Book of Mormon for me, though. Some of the sight gags and jokes like the vet/veteran confusion driving a character's decision making (which, randomly was also used in a new movie I saw recently) felt more Mel Brooks to me, and the entire chorus of fortune tellers in "Go For It" made me think Producers too. But then they do odd things like not taking the opportunity to have the boy Audrey meets
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actually be from Madison, WI like she assumed and not Madison Avenue instead of Lansing when he gets found out?
I appreciate it wasn't a string of super short scenes as some other recent shows have been, but the direction/staging could benefit from being a LOT more cinematic. I think it's fine to pepper Rusty's storyline throughout the show, but if I think of it like a movie, I see old school wipes across the screen as almost a transition. As it is done here, they do stop the momentum, like having a whole set piece for the shoe store/church along with being dropped in the middle of another scene. There's a perfect opportunity for a number by the Church of Studyology! OR maybe Rusty has a short song (like really short) that can be done in a different style with each group he encounters. I thought the forced perspective of the set fit the tone, but this show needs automation and more dynamic staging or a different structure.
I didn't mind the blending of things from real pop culture with the imagined world of Vacation or using some out-of-date cliches, but yes, staring at a giant Kellyanne Conway face is unpleasant and specific references like TikTok can date very quickly. Also, don't mention anything more than once. Especially if you're going to get it wrong - it's a Speedo or bikini, not a thong. No one I know would call that thing a thong and you can easily rhyme Speedo. But I digress. 
So, it's not really of a piece with the movies, but what would it be without the branding, so what do you do? I think it can be fixed, but how many shows actually seem to do that during a fully staged run these days? I had a really good time, so maybe I'll find out when I see it again! (I took advantage of the clever $19.83 sale and will be going again Sunday night as well as probably another time near the end of the run). Friday and Saturday this week seem to be decently sold, and I'm curious how it will play to a fuller, weekend audience. The audience was somewhat sparse Tuesday night - I was the only person in my row in my section (Mezzanine Row A, house right center-ish aisle) until a couple of people moved down during intermission.
I don't feel comfortable discussing performances at a first preview, but we'll see how things are by Sunday.
Overall, I thought it provided some great laughs, a fun score, and an enjoyable night! Will that be enough? It's tough out there for any show these days. At the very least, yes, they really need to introduce us to the Griswolds before we dump them out of their element in Manhattan.
#26The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/16/22 at 11:48pm
I just saw the production photos. Boy does this look cheap.
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"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
BETTY22
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/29/13
#27The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/17/22 at 4:21pm
Can you enjoy this show if you have never seen any of the movies?
#28The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/17/22 at 5:33pm
The set reminds me of the non-equity set for the ELF tour... and that is not a good thing.
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ErmengardeStopSniveling
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
#29The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/17/22 at 10:35pm
"if anyone working on the show is reading this PLEASE cut the Rikers Island escape room visual joke"
...........say what now?
Johnny Truant
Swing Joined: 9/13/22
#30The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/22/22 at 12:49am
Saw the show again Sunday night, and my reaction shifted significantly after a second viewing although the show itself seemed exactly the same. I didn't notice any changes from Tuesday night, so they may just be letting this one run as is.
Point blank: This show needs more humor and less heart. This is not Vacation nor are these the Griswolds (in spirit). A Vacation musical should be hilariously funny first and foremost. We don't need emotional depth or even true character arcs. Tell us who these people are, and then put them through a series of hilarious events for our enjoyment. Vacation should be about the journey, not the destination.
To answer the question - yes, I think you can enjoy this show without having seen the movies. Maybe. You might wonder why the laughs are bigger for some jokes than those jokes seem to warrant or why a secondary character gets such a big reaction just showing up - movie reference. But you also won't come in with expectations.
Yes, the set looks incredibly cheap which seems to be how things are done at The 5th now. I honestly don't see how they expect people to pay $170/ticket for the rest of their season if these are the production values we can look forward to for an uninspiring lineup with no other original musicals. Sitting in the orchestra emphasized the visual effect of the forced perspective angles and flats (both the dimensions and single color matte paint), and I can only guess the intention was to treat this like a live action cartoon. But, as with the Grease/Greece confusion with Carrie, in my head cannon, someone said, "It's like Looney Tunes," and some people on the creative team took it literally.
But the tone isn't even Looney Tunes. It's more like Tiny Toons or Animaniacs, where it's aimed at kids but has jokes for the parents thrown in that will sail over the kids' heads. (They turned Ghostbusters and Beetlejuice into cartoons wildly different from the movies, so maybe it's something about ‘80s movies). Except for one f-bomb (which gets the evening’s biggest laugh), I don’t think there was any other profanity in the show, putting this very much in light PG territory.
But oddly, not in keeping with the kid’s cartoon feeling, they minimize the physical comedy, replacing it with movie references, lame jokes that get repeated I guess in hopes they’ll be funny the second time, and out of place, wink-at-the-audience-this-is-a-musical contrivances. They mostly prefer to tell instead of show. I get it, it’s much easier to give us a lot of static ballads.
Clark in the movies is kind of an overconfident, yet frequently wrong or inept, condescending, self-centered dick. People often get physically hurt or things get broken due to his single-mindedness, which often means he doesn't even notice. The musical has a little of that, but misses what's funny: the joke isn't just him absent-mindedly throwing a bouquet of flowers from the observation deck of the Empire State Building; it's more so what happens to whomever or whatever is at the receiving end of that toss. Musical Clark is very passive, people pleasing, and unbelievably dim.
Imagine the stories you’d get if Clark knew Wally World was closed or he wasn’t getting his Christmas bonus ten minutes from the jump. Or if Christie Brinkley’s character had barely dated Clark (switched to Ellen here) in high school yet remained obsessed with him because for some reason a lust-driven mini-storyline needs full justification to create a not-quite villain. This Clark would not shoot someone to ride a roller coaster.
The choices here are frustrating as they seem to throw out everything the source material gave them other than references and near quotes. Instead of having the family playing the (relative) straight men rolling their eyes at their embarrassing patriarch, the musical goes out of its way to separate them all repeatedly. We lose the humor of their interactions. I think members of the ensemble get more to do than poor Rusty. An example solution - take the song “You Can Tell Me Anything,” make it the whole family with each member getting a verse, have the confession in each verse get darker/meaner and funnier, and cut the sentimentality (mostly).
When I first saw this on the schedule, I wondered how one could make a musical based on the Griswolds. By this team showing us what not to do, I can see what might have worked. If you’re adapting this material that originally consisted of situations connected by a super-thin plot, take the opportunity to make this a show focused on the funny, packed to the brim with large, ensemble numbers in a variety of settings, impressive set pieces or locations, and stunts that make us ask, “How did they do that on stage..and safely?”
This kinder, gentler, safer Vacation is ultimately a boring one (as I’m sure many find my diatribe to be).
The highly talented cast is giving their all in a poorly directed production. As others have mentioned, Jen Cody is a standout - even her posture in that off-brand duck costume was distinctive and humorous.
I know this sounds like I ended up hating it, which I didn’t (or I would have left at intermission). It was just ultimately a frustrating experience when the choices that were made in creating and staging a new piece yet again seem to be some combination of misguided, uncreative, and lazy.
If you are in Seattle, I can recommend 5th Avenue’s co-production of Choir Boy with ACT at their space a block over.
ErmengardeStopSniveling
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
#31The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/22/22 at 1:03am
Obviously can't judge a score on a minute-long clip, but this isn't great. Also reminds me of everything I hate about modern Times Square (tho I think that's the point)
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#32The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/22/22 at 1:54am
I think it's a fantastic idea for a musical. But lacking humor.... ouch.
BETTY22
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/29/13
#33The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/22/22 at 9:16am
OPENING NIGHT - when do reviews come out? What outlets cover theater in Seattle?
#34The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/22/22 at 9:34am
How have they missed out on the comedic aspect of this? Welp, I guess this isn't coming to Broadway anytime soon then.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
A Director
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/18/07
#35The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/24/22 at 1:26am
JSquared2 said:
Also, while it may not be the "PC" talking point -- yes, sometimes women DO need to make a choice between career and motherhood."
Who are you to make this vile comment? Your opinion does not matter
inception
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/13
#36The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/24/22 at 10:52am
Re Johnny's long review, I'm sad to read the feeling that the 5th is going cheap with sets etc lately Next spring they are doing both ITW & Sweeny Todd. I'm sort of indecisive about whether I want to go down to see these productions since I have seen & plan to see them recent Broadway versions. But, I hate to pass on opportunities to see any productions of these shows.
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#37The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/24/22 at 11:15am
I don't think that this is a good place to challenge PC, unless it's relevant to the play itself. No minds will be changed. Just brings acrimony.
Good Grief!
National Lampoon's Vacation
The Devil Wears Prada
Back to the Future
Legally Blonde
Mrs. Doubtfire
What next? Porky's. Animal House. Or will they go highbrow with Star Wars or Indiana Jones 
Goldfinger the Musical Already has a hit song. Performed wonderfully by Shirley Bassey.
Is this the future of the Broadway musical? It's not that these were bad films, necessarily. It's just that when you subtract Christopher Lloyd, Robin Williams and Meryl Streep there's not a lot left.
I recall when they used to make blockbuster films from ground-breaking musicals.
That still happens now and then.
Strange Lupone
Stand-by Joined: 5/11/22
#38The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/24/22 at 5:21pm
OlBlueEyes said: "I don't think that this is a good place to challenge PC, unless it's relevant to the play itself. No minds will be changed. Just brings acrimony.
Good Grief!
National Lampoon's Vacation
The Devil Wears Prada
Back to the Future
Legally Blonde
Mrs. Doubtfire
What next? Porky's. Animal House. Or will they go highbrow with Star Wars or Indiana Jones
Goldfinger the Musical Already has a hit song. Performed wonderfully by Shirley Bassey.
Is this the future of the Broadway musical? It's not that these were bad films, necessarily. It's just that when you subtract Christopher Lloyd, Robin Williams and Meryl Streep there's not a lot left.
I recall when they used to make blockbuster films from ground-breaking musicals.
That still happens now and then.
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Well, to be clear, this is an original story based on characters from a film series. There’s no film of Broadway vacation. The examples you cite are really just musicals of movies. It’s a very minor quibble, but I have a Virgo rising and it’s causing me to make the distinction.
pethian
Leading Actor Joined: 5/23/22
#39The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/24/22 at 7:41pm
Strange Lupone said: "Well, to be clear, this is an original story based on characters from a film series. There’s no film of Broadway vacation. The examples you cite are really just musicals of movies. It’s a very minor quibble, but I have a Virgo rising and it’s causing me to make the distinction."
Good point. Regardless of the merit of the show, it is more original than the film-to-stage adapted musicals cited.
#40The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/24/22 at 11:07pm
pethian said: "Strange Lupone said: "Well, to be clear, this is an original story based on characters from a film series. There’s no film of Broadway vacation. The examples you cite are really just musicals of movies. It’s a very minor quibble, but I have a Virgo rising and it’s causing me to make the distinction."
Good point. Regardless of the merit of the show, it is more original than the film-to-stage adapted musicals cited.
I am flattered that you took the trouble to enlighten me.
So is this the way that Broadway fills those $300 rear center mezzanine seats in the future? No Edna Ferber or G.B. Shaw? No spectacle like Phantom, Miss Saigon, Les Miserables?
They are going to eliminate the risk of the prospective audience being indifferent to the subject of the musical by using as source popular old films. But remove the stars from the films and there is little that remains.
Oops. Off topic again. "Never mind."
#41The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/25/22 at 6:47pm
Ferber and Shaw are your reference points?
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#42The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/26/22 at 9:52pm
Kad said: "Ferber and Shaware your reference points?"
My intent is not to turn great literature into great musicals, although this has been done.
You need as a minimum an good story and some interesting characters to inhabit the story. I think that literature and drama are a better source of these than popular films. The films are well known and their popularity depends in great part on the actors who play the roles.
This is not to say that there are not many films that would serve as source for a new musical but I speculate that when they are looking for investors, producers feel more confident if the film creates instant recognition of a pleasant memory of the film.
akhoya87
Stand-by Joined: 4/22/18
#43The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/27/22 at 10:47am
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Obviously can't judge a score on a minute-long clip, but this isn't great. Also reminds me of everything I hate about modern Times Square (tho I think that's the point)"
This gives me Spring Spectacular vibes (the one with Laura Benanti/Derek Hough) ... and not in a good way.
Dusoleilcanwhistle
Understudy Joined: 5/4/13
#44The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/27/22 at 11:01am
I had the chance to see the show last week and really enjoyed it. Is it perfect? Of course not - it's literally the first public performances of this show EVER. But the bones of a really fun musical are there and many of the songs had really witty lyrics and great melodies and the performances were fairly strong.
Personally, I felt like the first act moved a bit too quickly and wish there was a bit more setup of the characters and world before they got to NYC. Act Two felt much stronger to me, with Cousin Eddie's song and the sweet song for Clark and Audrey (You Can Tell Me Anything) which was probably my favorite of the evening.
If you're ripping this as "one of the worst things ever", you've really never seen actually terrible shows - trust me, I've sat through "Dance of the Vampires", "Good Vibrations", and "Scandalous" - those were horrendous. This is a solid first incarnation IMHO and you seriously need to give people more than a week from the first out-of-town tryout to change things before decrying everything unfixable.
Tom5
Broadway Star Joined: 9/23/11
#45The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 9/27/22 at 2:44pm
Much of the humor from the original film which I remember and liked came from the quirky cast of characters after we got to know them but not so much from the writing. It will be a tall task to be able to duplicate that on stage. Just singing "we're going on vacation" won't cut it.
aces25
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/13/04
#46The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 10/3/22 at 10:24am
With the show now closed in Seattle, has there been any rumblings of a Broadway run or next steps?
BoringBoredBoard40
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/27/21
#47The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 10/3/22 at 11:25am
I'm hearing it is going back into a workshop after the new year
BrodyFosse123
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/27/06
#48The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 10/11/22 at 12:25pm
Entire cast is back in the rehearsal room today so they’re back at workshopping this puppy. It’s safe to assume the producers are adamant about a Broadway run.
ErmengardeStopSniveling
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
#49The Griswalds' Broadway Vacation (World Premiere First Performance Tonight!)
Posted: 3/15/24 at 4:17pm
Much to my surprise, this show is not dead (yet).........
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