The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
#1The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 3:58pm
I'm having too much fun reading the outrage of some (presumably very older) men at the 'other board' complain about females using male bathrooms.
http://talkinbroadway.com/allthatchat_new/d.php?id=2317158
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#2The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:06pm
The mother of a friend of mine went to Fun Home- upon seeing that the women's line stretched up the stairs from the restroom sublevel, across the lobby, and to the concession counter, and that the men's room not only had no line but several open stalls, thought nothing of simply going to the men's room (and joined by a couple other like-minded ladies).
And why not? At the end of the day, what does it matter?
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Updated On: 12/21/15 at 04:06 PM
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#3The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:13pm
Because if a man had done the same, and walked into the ladies room….you can't have it both ways.
#4The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:17pm
...or perhaps we should cultivate a society in which women needn't be afraid that a man is going to sexually assault them by making it less likely for men to sexually assault them.
If the countdown to curtain is running down, do whatever it takes to get those people in the bathroom.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Updated On: 12/21/15 at 04:17 PM
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#5The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:18pm
If that happened, you would have the equivalent of a nuclear blast.Why not have gender neutral so no one gets their nose out of joint?First come/first serve and no line jumping. Problem solved.
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#6The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:18pm
I also think it's situational. I'm all for bathrooms being open to both genders because it really doesn't make me uncomfortable. But someone there mentioned the Radio City bathrooms where the urinals are so positioned that everyone using one is particularly exposed, and I can't say that I disagree that it shouldn't happen there. If it's all stalls or there are urinal dividers? Go right ahead.
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#7The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:27pm
Some abuse the privilege. I was turning around after doing a #1 at the movies. I was in the process of doing what men do before zipping up..Much to my surprise was a 5 year old girl standing right in front of me watching while her father did his business next to me. This guy obviously left his brains at the door.
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#8The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:38pm
Kad said: "...or perhaps we should cultivate a society in which women needn't be afraid that a man is going to sexually assault them by making it less likely for men to sexually assault them.
If the countdown to curtain is running down, do whatever it takes to get those people in the bathroom. "
YEP!
The other thing you can do is try your best not to rush before the show, find your seat (do this first so you won't be flustered trying to get back to it), go to the bathroom 5-7 minutes before curtain, and you might be okay.
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#9The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:42pm
People will find anything to be outraged about.
If she would have waited her turn and then come back 2 minutes after curtain everybody would bitch that she couldn't get back to seat on time.
....but the world goes 'round
Updated On: 12/21/15 at 04:42 PM
VintageSnarker
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#10The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:42pm
I feel like a father bringing his daughter to the restroom is a separate issue. Thankfully, child-rearing is no longer the principal concern of women. As we undergo this societal shift (which has been happening for decades) other men have to learn to be more accommodating.
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#11The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:05pm
Why is it men and females instead of men and women?
rjm516
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#12The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:08pm
Kad said: "...or perhaps we should cultivate a society in which women needn't be afraid that a man is going to sexually assault them by making it less likely for men to sexually assault them.
+100. *That's* why it would be a worse situation the other way around.
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#13The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:11pm
So now every man is now a potential sexual predator. So much for innocent until proven guilty. By simply being male you are a criminal.
Nice to know that.I thought stereotyping was bad.
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cjmclaughlin10
Broadway Star Joined: 6/26/15
#14The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:24pm
Mr Roxy said: "Why not have gender neutral so no one gets their nose out of joint?"
Because men pee all over the d**n seat
and bs I absolutely agree that no ladies should be allowed in the men's room simply because it is more convenient... If it was the roles were reversed, it would be a major incident
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#15The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:29pm
I always lift the seat if I use a stall. I also wipe the urinal for tell tale evidence that I was there Thank you very much
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cjmclaughlin10
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#16The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:29pm
Kad said: "...or perhaps we should cultivate a society in which women needn't be afraid that a man is going to sexually assault them by making it less likely for men to sexually assault them."
kad has a point everyone All men should be castrated!!!!!
Mr Roxy
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#17The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:30pm
That was a cutting remark.
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Huss417
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#18The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:36pm
Recently at the theatre I had a woman try to stop me from entering the mens room. She said her "lady friend" was in there. I told her I have no problem with that but I am not waiting for her to finish. She got all huffy with me and told me I was rude. I told her to enjoy the second act.
"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter."
Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.
Mr Roxy
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#19The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:42pm
During the original run of Purple at the Broadway, management was considering ordering all men from the bathroom to relieve pressure on the ladies room line from time to time.That would have worked out well had it ever been implemented. Imagine the situation in reverse.
If I am on line and a woman wants to wait in line behind me, I have no problem.How about letting women in for the stalls and men for the urinals?
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#20The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 5:53pm
So now every man is now a potential sexual predator. So much for innocent until proven guilty. By simply being male you are a criminal.
Obviously not every man is a sexual predator, but if a woman is encountering a strange man in a vulnerable place, she cannot see into his head and know if he's safe or not. If this man is you, she cannot see into your soul and know that you will not hurt her. How would you want the women in your life to respond to this possibly harmless, possibly dangerous stranger--prioritize their safety or put the man's potential hurt feelings first? If it bothers you that women have to be concerned about these things (and that concern might bleed over onto innocent men) consider blaming the men who abuse women (not you! #notallmen!), and not the women who are rightly protective of their own safety. Pretending that the situations are at all similar if the genders are reversed requires willfully burying your head in the sand about the real dangers that women face from (some! not all! but we're not mind-readers!) men.
#21The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 6:00pm
The building I have my studio in has unisex bathrooms. You share the sinks and there are fully inclosed stalls. It was awkward at first but now no big deal. I think the concept would work very well in theaters.
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Mr Roxy
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#22The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 6:03pm
While I sympathize with your point, I still have a problem with the stereotyping. There is no.happy.medium I guess.
I can see someone following a woman in a strange dark place.The woman has every right to assume the worst. By the same token, a man can feel.threatened with a physical attack in a dark desolate place. I have been the victim of a robbery plus 2 or 3 other attempts so I am naturally careful and suspicious.
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#23The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 6:04pm
But someone there mentioned the Radio City bathrooms where the urinals are so positioned that everyone using one is particularly exposed, and I can't say that I disagree that it shouldn't happen there. If it's all stalls or there are urinal dividers? Go right ahead.
I guess I'm not entirely following your argument here. For some unstated reason, you're implying that there's something wrong with women (or girls) catching a passing glance at men's genitalia. Well, wouldn't the same unstated reason apply to gay men (and boys)? Should they have separate restrooms? Obviously, that wouldn't quite solve the problem. :)
Mr Roxy
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#24The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 6:15pm
If anyone wants to grab a look at my privates, my God have mercy on them .
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KathyNYC2
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#25The Privilege to Pee (in real life)
Posted: 12/21/15 at 6:36pm
I confess. I used the men's room at Fun Home recently. I usually get to theater ridiculously early to use the rest room but got stuck in a parked subway and arrived just before show time... The line for the ladies room was huge (with no line for the men's room) and we were being signaled that the show was going to start soon. I was desperate. It was the men's room or the floor (and there is no late seating there).
I walked in quickly apologizing and walked out just as quickly when done. There were a number of men there - no one said boo. I would like to think that if the situation were reversed (which would be highly unlikely given the short lines at most men's rooms), women would be equally tolerant of emergencies. Will some complain? There are people who complain about everything, but when there is no alternative, what are you going to do?
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