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Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?

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PeteGonBway
#1Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 2:40pm

Working on a production of "Thoroughly Modern Milie" where we have Caucasian actors playing Bun Foo & Ching Ho... as far as makeup, we want it to look as authentic as possible, while exaggerating it enough for an extremely large venue. Any tipis or ideas? Anyone have photo examples?

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BroadwayBound062
#2re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 2:47pm

Liquid Eyeliner. When we did Miss Saigon last year at my school it was the only thing that saved us.


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CATSNYrevival
#2re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 2:54pm

Why don't you just dress up Muzzy in black face...

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LizzieCurry
#3re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 2:57pm

You may want to contact BD Wong. I'm sure he'd have some interesting and useful input.


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winston89
#4re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 3:04pm

Why not use fishing wire. Worked for Pryce when he was in Miss Saigon.


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sparrman
#5re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 4:27pm

In Richard Corson's makeup book he has a very effective "tape on the eyelids" technique.

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#6re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 5:05pm

Come back next year when you do Ragtime and need help turning white people black!

eatlasagna
#7re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 6:53pm

^^ that made me laugh so hard!

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BroadwayBound062
#8re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 7:00pm

LMAO...


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nomdeplume
#9re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 7:18pm

I'd just say

DON'T OVERDO IT!

Especially on the eyes as that is almost to caricature.

Tuck the blond hair up in a hat (depending on the role) or under a wig to hide it and I've seen that work just fine.

If the acting is good people will overlook a bit of discrepancy in physical features.

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Bettyboy72
#10re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 7:30pm

Its a fine line between character acting and offensive racism. Just be cautious and get some feedback from some Asian individuals if possible.


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SueleenGay
#11re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 7:56pm

We didn't have any orientals either so we just changed them to germans and made them Nazis. It was actually more funnier.


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Celticblockhead
#12re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 7:57pm

I just finished a production of The Mikado where not one of the cast members were asian. Dark eyeliner on the top lid only and fanciful or wigs are your best bet without making it a royal pain. I have pictures. If interested, PM me and I'll send you links.

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binau
#13re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 8:10pm

If we ignore the history behind 'black face', why is 'Asian face' less offensive?


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wizard2joe
#14re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 8:25pm

I am kind of offended by this since I am full asian,
but, I am sure if you're on stage you wouldn't be able to really see it and just put eyeliner on and tell them to quint their eyes just a little bit.
Don't forget the heavy asian accent.

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LizzieCurry
#15re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 8:40pm

Don't forget -- be sure they make their entrance in a souped-up Honda (they're driving badly, of course), with their overbearing mothers following them and telling them how they'll be late for piano lessons, but be home in time for the sauteed cat-chow mein dinner, and if they do badly they'll shame the entire family. Meanwhile, dad is in the back making crazy "WAHHH!" kung-fu sounds. ROR. That's funny.

And THAT'S how to make sure the audience knows they're Asian.


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Iluvlizlemon
#16re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 8:42pm

Yellow base, LOTS OF YELLOW BASE

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LizzieCurry
#17re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 8:48pm

More inspiration.

http://www.angryasianman.com/2009/07/stupidest-thing-ive-ever-seen-ii.html


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ashley0139
#18re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 9:44pm

We did Millie at my college last year. We didn't have Asian actors as Bun Foo and Ching Ho and, guess what, didn't try to make them Asian. Don't be offensive, just do the show.


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Chrysanthemum62001
#19re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 9:47pm

Heh. Once I was in a production of The Mikado. I am an Irish girl throughout. My make-up was horrible! And I had this crazy midnight black wig...which my friend put on backwards.

In other words, good luck!


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eatlasagna
#20re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 9:48pm

Suleengay... just wanted to let you know that it's pretty offensive to call Asians orientals... that's something you would call an object, like a rug or vase, not a person... just giving you a heads up... i can't tell on these boards sometimes if people on here are serious or being sarcastic..

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#21re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 10:45pm

Lizzie, thank you for the great tips!

bwaylvsong
#22re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 10:51pm

I think just wearing authentic-looking costumes and hats would be enough, considering you'll be speaking "Chinese" during the show and your ethnicity is clearly indicated in the script (and your name).

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SueleenGay
#23re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 11:22pm

lasagna, anything I write must be considered sarcastic if it offends anyone. Thanks for not correcting my grammar, though! re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?


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fgreene1938
#24re: Caucasian to Asian makeup tips?
Posted: 7/28/09 at 11:44pm

This thread's unbelievably racist. How about just have the actors AS THEY ARE. When non-caucasion actors are cast in traditionally white roles they don't get made up as white. Don't you grasp what it is you're actually suggesting? Creepy.


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