I was there last night and thought it was just okay. I did really like both Eric Anderson and Tommy Bracio. I am suprised that the reviews aren’t more mixed and are as bad as they are. Will be interesting to see how word of mouth helps or kills the show...I had a regular theater goer sitting on one side who hated it. On the other was a couple from out of town who it sounded like make to the city for theatre occasionally. The wife was a giant fan of the movie and they both seemed to love the show.
singer234 said: "True, but something tells me it wouldn’t be much different. Mean Girls and Frozen have sizeable followings. Pretty Woman has...tourists and New Yorkers who are willing to see it once. To be honest I have not seen much in the way of anything in terms of a “fandom”. Not even an inkling, atleast so far."
It is always astounding and amusing the lengths Broadway World posters will go to jump through psychological hoops to rationalize why there are so many people who like something that they themselves don't. Baby, it doesn't lessen you because other people like Pretty Woman the Musical...
I haven’t seen Pretty Woman yet. Where did I say I didn’t like it? I was just wondering about whether or not this show would take a Charlie trajectory rather than a mean girls/frozen one, simply because there seems to be a real lack of a fan base on social media. I know it’s a new show and things can change! I have no judgement on the material. I was just referring to fan bases. No one is denying it’s not doing well! Didn’t mean to trash the show. For all I know I could love it. Sorry for any confusion, that wasn’t my intention.
singer234 said: "I haven’t seen Pretty Woman yet. Where did I say I didn’t like it? I was just wondering about whether or not this show would take a Charlie trajectory rather than a mean girls/frozen one, simply because there seems to be a real lack of a fan base on social media. I know it’s a new show and things can change! I have no judgement on the material. I was just referring to fan bases. No one is denying it’s not doing well! Didn’t mean to trash the show. For all I know I could love it. Sorry for any confusion, that wasn’t my intention."
Sorry, your's was just one of a half dozen or so posters trying to make sense of a world seemingly gone mad (a 10 million dollar advance for ... PRETTY WOMAN THE MUSICAL???????? how, god, HOW??? There wasn't even a woman on the writing staff!!!! Oh lord take me now!!).
Oh yeah, it’s here to stay for a while. There are some prime stunt casting opportunities that I am sure the producers will eventually resort to with a show like this.
This reminds me of 9-to-5 the musical, that got dismissive reviews and then faded fairly quickly. In many ways, the reviews for Pretty Woman are almost as bad as Margaritaville's. I think the advance will quickly be eaten up, and the show will end up closing in January. The tourist market alone can't sustain this show in its first 6 months. They need some New Yorkers, and the reviews just told them its not worth the time or money.
Except they are already exceptionally well sold thru the Holidays, so unless no one literally buys more tickets is the only way your prediction will happen.
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These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
"Auggie27 said: "I'm still not quite over the demise of "Groundhog...," a superior work, with an act two that actually deepened the source material and made the premise an existential question worth pondering. And was wildly entertaining. It's presumptuous to say "wish Karl was doing that now," because it's history. But it was a brilliant showcase for him, and he was an indefatigable triple threat. I say that as an indifferent fan prior to GD"
I'm not over the loss of Groundhog Day either."
I was was over it before the show was even over. Easily one of the worst and most painful musicals I've ever sat through. Awful score, mind-numbingly obnoxious book, rotten character. Pretentious, too. Who could ask for anything less?
Now, Pretty Woman was no great shakes, to be sure, but it was certainly not the insufferable ordeal that was Groundhog Day.
But there's no question that Andy Karl deserves better properties.
They should've cast Karl in Kiss Me, Kate so that he wouldn't be stuck in another terrible screen to stage adaption. I mean, Rocky, Groundhog Day, and Pretty Woman. Give the man a break already. And yes, Groundhog Day was atrocious.
Thank God you chimed in to let everyone know Groundhog Day was atrocious, officially invaliditing everyone’s positive opinions about it. Thank God for you and your OFFICIAL statements.
I mean, you can have your opinion, but I'm also allowed to think it was atrocious, which I think it was. I never said my opinion is definitive. Once again, it seems that this board requires you to announce "IN MY OPINION" before every statement.
"gins up unconvincing nods to empowerment without for a moment thinking them through or taking them seriously."
"there’s “Something About Her” he sings, and that’s as close as the musical gets to explaining Vivian’s supposed charm"
"The musical’s ever-present notion that Vivian has some sort of something (“You’re so smart and have so many special gifts,” says Ed) has to be taken on faith. Neither the musical’s book – written by the late Garry Marshall, who directed the movie, and J.F. Lawton – nor its Adams/Vallance songs make Vivian anything more than the type of stock diamond in the rough character who typically needs Woody Allen’s intellectual mentoring. Note that all-male roster of creators."
"We’re instructed time and again that the down-on-her-luck Vivian just won’t give up on her true dreams, though if Pretty Woman bothers to explain dreams of what exactly, I missed it."
Damn, Deadline. The knives were out for GTTBT but he just sounds exhausted at the mediocrity and vagueness.
Owen22 said: "newintown said: ""Lauper, incidentally,is working on a Working Girl musical, which is not only a superior film from this era but I think a better choice for a musical adaptation."
I know thatKinky Bootsis a success, but I do hope that Lauper stretches herself when it comes to her lyrics for this. I'd be disappointed to hear another score that consists of phrases like "The most beautiful thing in the world" or "Everybody Say Yeah" repeated hundreds of times.
What could be the repeated hooks inWorking Girl, the Musical? "It's not even leather!" "Coffee? Tea? Me?" "Head for business, body for sin.""
Oh my god, there's IS going to be a "Head for Business, Body for Sin" number...isn't there...? Gawd...."
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Saw the matinee on Saturday. So much talent on stage. My biggest frustration (aside from the older audience members saying all the movie lines out loud) was that so many moments from the movie were treated as presentational comedic bits or sight gags. With all of its problems, the movie at least had natural, often quiet, "full of heart" moments, mostly through Julia Roberts' responses, that the musical now uses to hit the audience over the head. "Laugh here!" "Applaud here!" With all of Samantha's talents, and there are many, (I've been a fan since I saw her as Eponine on the West End) her biggest flaw here is simply that she's not Julia Roberts.
But it'll be interesting to see how long this lasts. The audience was going nuts over it.
"But it'll be interesting to see how long this lasts. The audience was going nuts over it."
If audience response were a barometer of success, every show would be a hit. I've seen audiences leap to their feet for Dance of the Vampires, Escape To Margaritaville, It Shoulda Been You, and many other uber-flops.
newintown said: ""But it'll be interesting to see how long this lasts.The audience was going nuts over it."
If audience response were a barometer of success, every show would be a hit. I've seen audiences leap to their feet forDance of theVampires,Escape To Margaritaville,It Shoulda Been You, and many other uber-flops."
I didn't mean to imply that it was in any way a predictor of it's success but I can see how it read that way.
"Related, if Tootsie turns out to be great, when was the last time a composer won back-to-back Tony Awards?"
Stephen Sondheim won 4 tonys in three years for the scores of Company, Follies, and A Little Night Music. In 1970, the score category was divided into Best Music and Best Lyrics, so Sondheim won 2 for Company.
"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir
Was there tonight - lottery win, front mess on the side, fine view - and I was pretty appalled. Really awful and basic on all accounts. Besides the actors, it felt like a cheap regional production. Did they just put no money into this? The sets were wobbly and basic. And I know Rockwell can design. And the choreography was beyond basic. So many jazz squares! Was everyone just cashing a paycheck?! Cause, sadly, this is going to run. It was basically sold out on a random Tuesday in Feb. Barks was in great voice, same for Orfeh. Pascal seemed a little out of his depth. But the whole thing seemed pointless. But the audience ate it up.