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How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
#150re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 6:21am
"Perhaps you need a crash course in how Hollywood has consistently obliterated or downplayed gay male relationships, even when it's a historical fact."
yeah, Longtime Companion, Torch Song Trilogy, Jeffrey...such downplays.
Listen, The Celluloid Closet came out years ago. We don't need a rehash. You seem to be stepping back in time instead of moving forward with your ridiculous insinuations...
There's not gonna be another Stonewall on these message boards, no matter how hard you try.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive.
"Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot."
"No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one."
Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
Updated On: 8/22/05 at 06:21 AM
broadwaystar2b
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/28/04
#151re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 9:31am
Threadjack:
"Jeffery Seller; ex. producer, no other credits"
Not true, he produced Avenue Q too
*back to the showdown*
Updated On: 8/22/05 at 09:31 AM
#152re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 10:16am
Snarkiness aside for a moment, the misconception that art2 is making here is that apparently if there isn't something resembling gay soft porn in the movie that it's homophobia.
I find it compeletely absurd to toss around such a strong and accusatory word to describe a disagreement with the director's vision - especially when there is absolutely not way to confirm or deny art2's claims.
A lot of things will likely be cut given that the run time of this film is shorter than the run time of the play.
If Columbus cuts Mr. Grey attending the party after Maureen's performance at the Life Cafe does it also mean that Columbus is prejudice against upper class white men?
If Columbus cuts the stories about Angel helping the tourists find the circle line does that mean he is anti tourism and as a result anti-capitalism?
Do you live your life in such absolute black and white? You must be an absolute hoot to hang out with.
I am all for discussing opinions even when I disagree with someone, however when someone is being so absolute black or absolute white about a topic that is impossible to discuss at this time it seems to me that they simply want to cause problems or get attention. Either way, he's succeeded.
I too would like to share a definition if I may:
dis·cuss - 1. To speak with another or others about; talk over.
Art isn't interested in discussion he interested in sharing his feelings and demanding that (impossible) responses be given in his specific way.
Anyway, I think I am done here as it's pretty much been beaten to death.
#153re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 10:17am
So, do you think in the good old days of the Internet, with high hope for the information superhighway, they would have ever conceived that an assinine conversation like this would use up bandwidth.
Art2 has his opinion, and has a seeming strong resistance to logic (which makes me wonder if he is not George Bush incognito). While the rest of us flail araound trying to either show Art2 the error of his way, or threadjack to conversation to the point of futility.
Just don't play with him. Until the movie comes out, and there is something to really discuss, all you are doing is feeding the beast. Don't waste the bandwidth.
Threadjack . . .
On Friday, Bill Maher had Phyllis Schaflley (sp) on, the far rigth conservative christian loon (in my opinion only of course) and he asked her point blank why so Many conservative activities have gay children. She Does, Cheney Does, Alan Keyes does . . . she got flusterd . . . it was pretty funny.
Second Threadjack . . .
Can we send some of the super Penguins over to Crawford, Texas? I have a mission of ustmost importance for them to perform . . .
OK, back to assinine discussion of possibilites thay may or may not exist. Me, Peter Pan, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy are all very interested in what the Male on Male action will really look like in Rent.
Updated On: 8/22/05 at 10:17 AM
One Song Glory
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/12/05
#154re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 11:48amTo answer your original question art2, I don't know. I'd wait for the movie to actually come out. Good day, my friend.
I'm not a gay stereotype. I'm a coincidence.
#155re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 11:58am
I like eggs 
Sunchips: Best Kept Secret in the chip aisle!!
#156re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:00pmEggs with cheese....yum...
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive.
"Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot."
"No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one."
Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#157re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:10pm
SUPER PENGUINS TO THE RESCUE!!!!
-Anyone want to turn anarchist with me?"Bless you and all who know you, oh wise and penguined one." ~YouWantItWhen????
#158re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:13pm
Pinguin, that's the best.
Other than Super Penguin, this thread makes me want to gauge my eyes out.
#159re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:16pmIt's amazing what gets deleted and what doesn't on these boards...
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive.
"Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot."
"No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one."
Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
Ad_Libbing
Featured Actor Joined: 10/30/04
#160re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:21pmOh, were I a moderator, Justice, I'd let this thread stay, just so I could have a laugh over it. A sick, almost masochistic sort of laugh, but a laugh none the less. It's the epitome of absurdity.
"'But do you really mean, sir,' said Peter, 'that there could be other worlds --all over the place, just round the corner-- like that?'
'Nothing is more probable,' said the Professor..."
-The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe
'Nothing is more probable,' said the Professor..."
-The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe
#161re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:25pm
Thanks Pinguin. . . that made my day!
Now, if only he could find some choice places to relieve him/herself . . .
That would really hit the spot.
popcultureboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/23/03
#162re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:34pm
And what's the point of waiting until the movie is out? If the damage is done, the damage is done.
You really have to ask? Until the movie is out, NO DAMAGE IS DONE, YOU LUNATIC. And I repeat my point that Chris Columbus had NOTHING to do with the trailer, so really, build a bridge and just get the **** over it already.
Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.
#163re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:49pm
Anytime, folks, anytime...except for the rest of the day, 'cause THIS penguin is going to the BEACH.
See ya!
-Anyone want to turn anarchist with me?"Bless you and all who know you, oh wise and penguined one." ~YouWantItWhen????
#164re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:51pm
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How cute is he?! I want to hug him.
#165re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 1:57pm
Nice work keeping up the good fight Pinguin!
I'd love to join the penguin posting party, but in my 3 months away I forgot how to post pictures.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#166re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 2:20pmI doubt we have to worry about losing the male homosexuality aspects of the show. The people most-likely to go see it will generally be tolerant of that particular lifestyle and not be offended. Afterall, there is barely more than a quick kiss on the lips in the stage show, so I doubt Columbus is going to get rid of what little affection they have anyway (and let's not forget the "Ill Cover You").
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#167re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 2:40pmnot to defend art, cuz i totally see the frustration in this topic, but i believe his/her point of making a big deal out of it NOW is to prevent such a thing from happening (after the movie is out, its too late for change) perhaps his comment shouldve been stated less as a question of how its being handled and more of an assertion of how he hopes its handled. but while this message board might reach some interesting theatre folk, i highly doubt anyone with influence on this movie will see his opinions here.
#168re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 2:42pmDon't you all realize that your refutes are almost totally wasted? It just ain't worth it.
art2
Stand-by Joined: 8/10/05
#169re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 6:20pm
Patronus,
Not wanting to sound patronizing but you really need to get your clear thinking caps on, darl. To suggest that a kiss between two men equates to soft porn is hilarious. If that's your view of a male-male kiss then I combine the notion of hilarity with pity.
As for chopping and changing, that's sure to occur. But if the male-male kiss is excluded but the heterosexual and female-female kisses are retained or added, then one can make the assertion that selective homophobia has played a part. If Chris Columbus has done this then he's guilty.
#170re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 6:30pm
1) It isn't funny, it's annoying and obnoxious. And I WILL NOT STAND FOR it.
2) Bitch AFTER the movie comes out. YOu have no idea what the movie is like.
3)If you want male-male kissing, RENT a porno and only watch the kissing scenes.
4) Em is right. Once a stubborn idiot, always a stubborn idiot.
#171re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 6:35pm
groan, I can't believe I'm trying this. (yes everyone I know, pointless/ brick wall... blah, blah. I choose to respond to Art once more)
Art please at least tell me you do real, positive activism in support of gay rights in the real world.
ok, if Chris Columbus has cut out the male-male kisses entirely while keeping everything else in (although the mainstream interpretation of an ACTUAL relationship between Lesbians is not as accepted and understood as you seem to think) then what you say is true.
My question to you is, what are you going to do about it?
as far as patronus' comment, it comes back to focusing exclusively on the physical, and was humorous, ie not intended to be taken literally.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#172re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 6:48pm
hy·per·bo·le ( P ) Pronunciation Key (h-pûrb-l) n.
A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#173re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 6:57pm
art, if you want your opinions to reach those who can influence the show, why not write THEM a little letter?
#174re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?
Posted: 8/22/05 at 7:00pmHe doesn't care; he's just trying to get people riled up. He's been doing this on other forums, as well.
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