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Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
#75re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 4:34pm
Okay I have the solution to all this RENThead newbie crap. You can only be a TRUE RENThead if you know every single word to La Vie Boheme (A and B!) without looking at the lyrics and without just singing along to the music.
okay yes that was sarcasm and just a kick at the annoying people who think you have to meet a certain requirement in order to be a true RENThead. Okay the only real requirement is that you have to know both versions- if you are claiming RENTheadom just after seeing the movie and with no other knowledge and not even knowing the songs to the show, you are pathetic.
"That boy could use some Prozac"
#76re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 4:44pm
Are you people on crack? What the hell? I'm one of the people who used to camp out to get the front row tickets, I know every word to every song, every beat to every song, etc. You want to call me a RENThead, go ahead. You want to call me a newbie, go ahead. Who cares?
As long as it affected you, as long as you received the message, it did it's job. There shouldn't be any competition over "Who's the biggest fan".
For those that want to exclude people from some "group" go somewhere.
If you're a "newbie" and want to call yourself a RENThead, go ahead.
Just remember the message and live life like there's "No day but today".
"Theater is not only the meeting place of all the arts, but the return of art to life." -- Oscar Wilde
#77re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 5:10pm
OMG Jonathan Larson would see this thread and HATE ALL OF YOU and then he would post a secret all about you on RentSecrets!
NDBT!1!! CYTS!!1
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
kato1
Swing Joined: 1/9/06
#78re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 5:11pm
i've posted something similar to this before (under a different name; i lost my login info), and i just feel the need to say it again.
i was an original RENThead back in 96/97. the title doesn't apply anymore. it stood for something that does not and cannot exist anymore, that was specific to that time period, the cast(s), the feelings about the show. it was different than it is now. i do believe that anyone can appreciate, love, and respect the show and fully grasp its message. all the bickering about who's real and who's not is ridiculous. you all like the same show -- why not talk about that? who cares "who likes it more," etc. who cares who has seen it the most, or where? who cares how someone got into the show at all? aren't you glad to just have people to discuss it with? *although i will say that the whole RENThead thing has definitely always had a competitive side, which totally turned me off* when RENT first debuted, i was 15, and hard pressed to find many people into something like that. the community that gathered at the nederlander in those beginning years probably felt much of the same. it's a different show now...which is not to say that the actors aren't capable, but if you'd seen the show back in the day, you'd realize that a lot of them play anthony rapp playing mark, and play adam playing roger, and play daphne/marcy/insert female playing mimi (for example).
but you can't blame these kids who are 13, 14, 15 who are just getting into RENT or have been into it for a few years for ruining who constitutes a RENThead. how/why would they know that? hierarchy within something that doesn't even exist anymore is really silly. it's a show that touched many, many people deeply, but, seriously, guys, it's JUST a show.
Dramatic_Irony
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/26/05
#79re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 6:02pm
kato1, I agree completely with you. Of course, I can't quite understand being a RENThead (or at least by your definition), because I was seven when the original cast left, and my mom obviously didn't feel it was a child-appropriate show.
But yes, I think that most of the people I've seen playing the characters of Rent are playing the actors playing the characters. I mean, supposedly one of the main reasons they cast Matt Caplin was because he sounded like Anthony Rapp! By the way, that's one thing I love about Rosario Dawson and Tracie Thoms in the movie- they seemed to be putting *themselves* into their respected roles, not playing various other actors.
Grief does not expire like a candle or the beacon on a lighthouse. It simply changes temperature. -Nocturne
#80re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 6:11pmI'm an original Renthead. I was a fan before the movie was even being filmed. I was still new to it, but I wore out (and have finally gotten a replacement) my copy of the OBC recording and even though the soundtrack is nice, the OBC is always superior.
1. Ted Allen: Everyone has an interesting life if you ask the right questions.
2. Great buckets of Spoffnor, they're going to sing!
3. "I love shrubs that are historical." -Johnny and The Sprites
4. "We're not singing it to you, we're singing it for us." -Rosario Dawson, about La Vie Boheme
5. "The best moments in reading are when you come across something - a thought, a feeling, a way of looking at things - which you had thought special and particular to you. And now, here it is, set down by someone else, a person you have never met, someone even who is long dead. And it is as if a hand has come out, and taken yours." -The History Boys
6. "Pass the parcel. That's sometimes all you can do. Take it, feel it and pass it on. Not for me, not for you, but for someone, somewhere, one day. Pass it on, boys. That's the game I want you to learn. Pass it on." -The History Boys
2. Great buckets of Spoffnor, they're going to sing!
3. "I love shrubs that are historical." -Johnny and The Sprites
4. "We're not singing it to you, we're singing it for us." -Rosario Dawson, about La Vie Boheme
5. "The best moments in reading are when you come across something - a thought, a feeling, a way of looking at things - which you had thought special and particular to you. And now, here it is, set down by someone else, a person you have never met, someone even who is long dead. And it is as if a hand has come out, and taken yours." -The History Boys
6. "Pass the parcel. That's sometimes all you can do. Take it, feel it and pass it on. Not for me, not for you, but for someone, somewhere, one day. Pass it on, boys. That's the game I want you to learn. Pass it on." -The History Boys
#81re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 6:54pmMy thing is that the message behind Rent is love and coming together as one. So why are people separating themselves thinking they are superior to others? It is stupid that people are so mean about something which is so peaceful and loving. All of you people who think you are better than everyone else because you have seen the show a million times, you need to come down to earth and realize that you are no better than anyone else. Listen to Rent and praise all of those who get it!
Broadway4Life2
Chorus Member Joined: 1/8/06
#82re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 7:08pmI so agree w/ you nolatheatre. That's why i posted this topic in the first place, becuz i absolutely dislike being discriminated for something like this. I do have tickets to see the show in Las Vegas on April Fool's Day which is awesome. Again I do appreciate all of your responses. But i do wish that could fit in somewhere where I'm not discriminated against by people who are so mean. I may not be as protective of RENT as some of you might but that doesn't mean those little things don't annoy me as much.
cubbiegirl
Stand-by Joined: 11/15/05
#83re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 7:22pm
I'm 27, so I would of been old enough to see the original cast. It wasn't really on my radar back then. It is foolish to assume that anyone could see the show though..even $20 tickets would have been way too much of a luxury back then for me..my family was trying to find money to put food on the table.
That all being said, I'm old enough now to go see productions on my own. I live in nowhere Missouri, and the closest tour stop is usually St Louis which is a three hour drive. I'll be heading up there when the tour comes in March. I've seen the movie and have the OBCR.
I don't understand the need for competition, there is no "biggest fan" or hierarchy of how much you love something. If a piece causes you to stop, reflect, and love it..then it doesn't matter if it is your first time hearing it or your 1000th.
Jim Caruso: You know, you are doing Wicked.
Stephanie J Block: I am!
Jim: Is anyone coming to that old thing?
Stephanie J Block: I am!
Jim: Is anyone coming to that old thing?
Broadway4Life2
Chorus Member Joined: 1/8/06
#84re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 7:27pmWell who cares if you've been a fan for I don't know how long and I've only been a fan for two months!!! That DOESN"T mean that I am NOT a true fan. A true fan is someone who spreads love not hate. Which is exactly what RENT teaches us all. And I don't think half of you are doing that. How can you guys stand all this negativity? You are a fan if you get the message and all of us do. I rest my case.
#85re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/9/06 at 7:31pm
I don't know what you would call me...
I mean, I was a fan of the music before the movie was even thought of, but because I live in Dallas I never saw the show. So I became an even bigger fan when the new of the movie came out. It was my chance to finally see it.
So, I guess I'm kinda a mix, just cause I haven't seen the true show but I like the music before the movie..*Shurg* I don't know..
#86re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/10/06 at 7:33am
Okay, here is my thought on the matter:
I think that the original rentheads are not those who have seen it x amount of times or with so-and-so starring in it or who know all of the words to La Vie Boheme (sorry Jen!). I don't think being an "original" renthead is a title you can achieve. To me you only have to look at the word original to get your answer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the term "Renthead" was created for those who were there from the very beginning, who started seeing the show off broadway and followed it to where it is today. They were the ones who were there in those first couple of rows every night, keeping the show popular and the seats filled.
Personally I love the show and the OBCR and I think the OBC was amazing. I absolutely get the message of the show, I do know all of the words, I do know lots of useless trivia, but I would not call myself a renthead. Nor would I call my sister, who has seen it many, many more times than I have (I only saw it once), a Renthead.
I totally agree with Kato 1 that "the title doesn't apply anymore. it stood for something that does not and cannot exist anymore, that was specific to that time period, the cast(s), the feelings about the show. it was different than it is now."
That said, I do think you need to see the show, whether on broadway or on tour, to feel the full impact. Personally I enjoyed the movie, but there were parts taken out and others added and I think to really appreciate Rent you need to see it performed.
The truth is, whatever we call ourselves we are all fans. So just go enjoy the show and forget about what you call yourself or what your friend calls his/herself.
"I wrote a book: "How to Be Popular". Now I've put together a top ten list of how to help you:
-Elphie, everyday... shower. I mean, who knows? Maybe some of that green is gonna come off!
-Deodorant Elphie. No body likes a stinky witch!
-I think we've covered the hair, we'll get to that.
-Clean underclothes. That's all I'm gonna say.
-Look at your posture. That's no way to be popular!
-Bed made, room straightened. We've done that.
-Colors blended. Oookay.
-But the most important thing to have, to make yourself popular, is to keep your beautiful smile."
~Kristin Chenoweth in her last performance of the song "Popular"
bwayondabrain
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/05
#87re: Original RENTHEAD or 'Newbie'?
Posted: 1/10/06 at 9:21pm
okay, im a newbie, and have been since around june when i saw the movie trailer- had to admit it!
so yeah, im not a full-blown renthead, but i do like the show
hope that doesnt annoy anyone, and i hope im not an annoying renthead cuz i try not to be!!!!...yeah :) im a bway fan. period.
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