New Rentheads- Page 3
New Rentheads
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#50re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:40pm
Though I think I'm confused, as to how being female factors in?
Oh, because of the heterosexuality of Raúl.
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
#51re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:42pmahh. Well, for what it's worth, he's very spoken for and far too old for me. (*counts* By more years than I care to tell.)
AlexL
Understudy Joined: 8/22/05
#52re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:42pm
Back to the topic--
I first saw RENT when I was 12 or so. I won't say that I got the full message, but I was a fan of the show--and at that time it wasn't a huge middle school fad. I don't think that BWW will get a ton of new visitors from the movie; either they'll all be chased away, or they'll find a forum about the movie...
Be a BE*liever! Feel the electricity!
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#53re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:46pmWell, at least my advanced age will give another point in my favor here.
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
#54re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:48pm
See, there you go!
(At my current age, it would almost be illegal. Almost.)
<--- sigh.
Orpheum
Stand-by Joined: 8/24/05
#55re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:49pmWhy would Rent get such hardcore teenyboppers as fans? Even if they do obsesss it won't last. Bimbos are fickle beasts!
#56re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:52pmWell, as I've said MANY times on here, I teach middle schoolers. I have a handful of girls who LOVE Rent. LOVE it. All year long they went around singing songs from it, quoting it, etc. etc. Of course I find it very amusing. My point, though, is that their dedication is anything BUT wavering - and with the movie coming out, I fear it's going to be even worse!
Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.
BroadwayBaby315
Understudy Joined: 1/17/05
#57re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:56pmSo much has been said for teenage girls becoming the new RentHeads... but what about teenage boys- will they become fans?
I am not Tony winner Dan Fogler.
#58re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:56pm
Well...it's already happening. "OMG, you like RENT! I like loooove that song about the minutes and years and stuff...I don't know what it's called though. LIKE OMG! *giggle*" I got that response today. Unfortunately people are seeing the trailer and liking it...and as a result you get people like that. It's better than no publicity...
I'm probably what you would consider a new renthead...but tis alrighty by me!
Updated On: 8/24/05 at 04:56 PM
elphieisperky
Broadway Star Joined: 2/21/05
#59re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 4:57pmI know many people who are young, like me, but who are very serious about Rent and about the plot and meaning of it. Although, some other people my age and younger just love it because Idina's in it, or because it's being turned into a movie, which for some people is "cooler than a Broadway show". Sure, I'll admit that after I saw Wicked, I was like, "Wow, if Idina's great in that, she must be great in Rent," but I never loved it solely because of her. The plot is very, very important, and it takes a true Renthead to understand that.
MiMi_08
Swing Joined: 8/24/05
#60re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 5:02pm
I saw it for the first time at 11. I've seen it 5 times since then. It's my favorite show. All my friends can't wait for it to come out, they've heard me talk about it for years.
I don't mind that everyones making a big deal about it even though they've never seen it for themselves. The movie won't hold a candel to seeing it in real life. Not that the acting will be bad or anything...theres just something about a live preformance. I'm sure you all understand what I'm talking about.
musicnmath
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/13/05
#61re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 5:33pm
Unfortunately people are seeing the trailer and liking it
surely you didn't mean that?
#62re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 5:42pm
"Unfortunately people are seeing the trailer and liking it"
Ok Kringas, I have figured out how to answer your question about "true fans" after reading the above quote.
A true fan is someone who has been so moved by something that not only did it change their lives, but they want to share it with others in the hopes that they too can be just as affected by it.
I don't believe Jonathan's message was to make sure we Broadway folks kept Rent a secret amongst ourselves. I believe Jonathan's message was intended for EVERYONE, regardless of the meduim in which you were exposed to it, your age, race, religion, etc.
The people who are so concerned with Rent being their little secret and are so overly concerned about the public "getting" the message are the ones who are missing the entire point of what Rent is all about.
"When you're a Jet, / You're a Jet all the way, / From your first pirouette / To your last grand jete." --Brian Kaman
Updated On: 8/24/05 at 05:42 PM
give_into_luv
Swing Joined: 8/23/05
#63re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 5:50pmmy friend got me into it last year.I fell in love w/ it instanly.Use to I didn't know much of Broadway.I'm so glad that I got into a year ago.I think I came more obessed than they did.But I just wished that people don't like Rent cuz it's a movie.It kinda gets on my nerves.People who make fun of me and now they are going to be singing La Vie Bohme in school.It was a me and my friend thing but not any more.
bunchamuncha
Leading Actor Joined: 3/7/05
#64re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 5:59pm
keggss, that was the most intelligent thing anyone has said on this thread. Thank you. (and Kringas also for also being a voice of reason).
I feel bad for people who are worried that someone else might not "get" the message from RENT or Bambi or any other movie. Sometimes you're not meant to "get" anything other than sheer entertainment. And sometimes the format in which "the message" is delivered is not in a way everyone will enjoy, does that mean the message isn't valid or they don't "get it"?
and my favorite line "I will run when the teenygirls come flooding bww." Hasn't that happened already?
If you really want to help the American theater, don't be an actress, dahling. Be an audience.....
Don't be taken in by the guff that critics are killing the theater. Commonly they sin on the side of enthusiasm. Too often they give their blessing to trash...
Tallulah Bankhead
#65re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 5:59pm
give_into_luv,
Who cares if you were the first one to like Rent at your school? Does it really matter? What matters is that you were affected by it. The people who jump on the bandwagon because they think Adam and Taye are hot, will come and go. I think Rent is going to gain many more fans and that should be a good thing, not looked upon as something negative. Again, why is it so important to be the first one to like something? Is it the coolness factor? If so, you are really missing the point of Rent.
"When you're a Jet, / You're a Jet all the way, / From your first pirouette / To your last grand jete." --Brian Kaman
Updated On: 8/24/05 at 05:59 PM
LaVieBoheme2
Stand-by Joined: 2/25/05
#66re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 6:11pmI think this problems going to come up a lot, but hopefully an R rating will keep out some of those people, plus it may be a big teenybopper fad for a while, but it'll die down soon enough and the original Rentheads will remain along with some new ones who really love it for what it is (or at least, lets hope).
Elyse. No day but Today.
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#67re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 6:22pm
Unfortunately people are seeing the trailer and liking it
"surely you didn't mean that?"
Correct, that came out wrong because it was a bit rushed. I was just really ticked off today because of who told me that, she's proclaimed her new found devotion to RENT. (Upon mentioning the stage production she became disgruntled.)
And unfortunately I do know quite a few people that decide to take something and beat it to its death by "loving it". That can be very frustrating, and well...I don't really think she picked up very much from it but SoL playing in the background, and that fact that Adam Pascal is hot.
Certain people should stay away from RENT--especially when you blatantly stated that the OBC recording totally bites not so long ago. I just don't like the fact that people are more moved by it being on it being in screen...but that's my personal sort of thing. I don't know, maybe she's just found some kind of love for musicals now, god only knows. Though I'm pretty sure it was some sort of mocked up, "OMG, we can soooo be FRIENDS now!"
The problem I have is not so much people liking it or jumping on the bandwagon, but I’m afraid of how cliché it might be. What I hope is that they will see deeper in to the story than the cast purely being HOT.
Who ever said RENT was a secret? I just can't stand hypocrisy, or the person who brought up the topic today. I hope that people who become fans through only the movie get Larson's message, and realize what it really is. It’s not like I want a secret society of Rentheads or something—and it would be great if every so often a reference popped up and more people would understand it. I just fear that the general public might take it the wrong way on so many levels. By no means am I telling people not to see the film…we’re all advocating for it to be a hit. I want it to make Potter eat dust.
Updated On: 8/24/05 at 06:22 PM
bunchamuncha
Leading Actor Joined: 3/7/05
#68re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 6:52pm
but I’m afraid of how cliché it might be
it's a Hollywood movie!
If you really want to help the American theater, don't be an actress, dahling. Be an audience.....
Don't be taken in by the guff that critics are killing the theater. Commonly they sin on the side of enthusiasm. Too often they give their blessing to trash...
Tallulah Bankhead
#69re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 6:58pm
This may sound kind of stupid, but I'll try to see if it makes sense to anyone else.
I feel like when the movie comes out I will be losing the closeness with the stars from the stage. I know that sounds really stupid because I'm not "close" with any of them, but I feel like all these little "Justin Timberlake, Ashton Kutcher" lovers will come and take over my movie. That being said, the movie is most likely going to be rated R, so not as many "teeny-boppers" will be able to see the movie. I don't know what my feelings are about the "new found" movie fans. I think I'm already a jealous type: people from my school don't know anything about the movie or the stage or the actors, so I feel that it will look fake to me.
Maybe I should just grow up and be glad for the cast, but I definitely have discussed this before. You have no idea... no one at my school watches the Tonys or knows much of anything about Broadway... I'm not looking forward to people talking about RENT when they don't know anything about it, and just pretend that they knew everything about RENT before the movie comes out. Those types of fans bother me a lot.
~kangaroo
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bunchamuncha
Leading Actor Joined: 3/7/05
#70re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 7:38pm
Where does this possessiveness stem from?
If you really want to help the American theater, don't be an actress, dahling. Be an audience.....
Don't be taken in by the guff that critics are killing the theater. Commonly they sin on the side of enthusiasm. Too often they give their blessing to trash...
Tallulah Bankhead
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#71re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 7:45pm
Keggss - Loved your explanation of what makes a true fan.
Bunchamuncha - I actually laughed out loud when you said I was "a voice of reason." I so rarely hear that in my daily life. Thanks for that.
Okay, I do have one thing to add. It's in response to Marlene. You said, "The problem I have is not so much people liking it or jumping on the bandwagon, but I’m afraid of how cliché it might be. What I hope is that they will see deeper in to the story than the cast purely being HOT." Is the phenomenon that much different from what's happened with the stage show? I know plenty of people who walked out of the show saying they liked it, but never became a rabid Rent-Head. Not everyone is going to get the same thing out of it, and not everyone who cares for it is going to be as deeply affected as some people are. And does anyone really believe that every single obsessed fan who attended the show multiple times were all touched by it on some deep and profound level?
And the thing is, you can dislike/hate, etc the stage version of a show and enjoy the movie. I don't see that that makes that person's experience any less valid.
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
voztimbrada
Leading Actor Joined: 4/5/05
#72re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 7:56pm
In my opinion, movie musicals are a vital element in keeping broadway, and musical theatre at large, alive in this multimedia society. There are so many video games, movie theaters, sporting events, and a million other forms of entertainment out there competing with live theatre. The way I see it, we all love musical theatre, and we all love broadway, which is the life force behind musical theatre. The movie musical is a proven method of bringing people to the theatre (Phantom of the Opera, Chicago, etc). The more people come to the theatre, the more Broadway flourishes. The more Broadway flourishes, the more we have a guarantee that our art form will not die out. Regional theatres all over the country are closing due to a lack of money to support the arts. It is getting harder and harder for theatre organizations to survive. Movies like "Rent" are ultimately helping save the modern musical. I'll deal with a few un-informed teenagers if it means more money and support for the arts. Besides, adolescents and pre-adolescents are misinformed about a lot of things in life. If they weren't spouting off about rent, they'd be spouting off about something else. It's all normal, healthy, and part of being young. Besides, some of those giggling young people are the musical theatre stars of the future. These movies ultimatley inspire those of them that are aspiring actors, to pursue it more actively. This is also an important element in the survival of the art. It's all in how you look at it. Accentuate the positive.
AlexL
Understudy Joined: 8/22/05
#73re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 8:02pmI'm not sure I would agree that it has to change your life. Perhaps for RENT, we can use that measurement, but I do consider myself a fan of other shows which haven't changed my life. Changing one's life is a big thing, and I'm not saying that shows aren't, it's just that I'm not sure that can really be used here. Being moved, of course. A lot. To the point of tears, every time. But I'm not sure about life-changing.
Be a BE*liever! Feel the electricity!
musicnmath
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/13/05
#74re: New Rentheads
Posted: 8/24/05 at 8:10pm
I'm going to re-insert my 2 cents as I believe it got lost earlier:
I feel no defensiveness about sharing RENT. I trust that these fine actors will make others know and love what we all have. I'm all for new people discovering musical theatre.
...But I think my annoyance will come from people discovering "our" show and "our" actors, while still not giving Broadway/musical theatre any respect. I think I will feel a little violated. If the movie sparks someone to go find out where Adam and Anthony and Idina and Jesse (etc) came from and discover all the shows they've done (and subsequently our beloved musical theatre genre), then that's fine. That would be great! But if I see a poster of Adam on someone's wall and they've never heard of Cabaret...or Aida...or Chess...(i.e. no context for this guy they luuv) this is where I will have issues.
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