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#1

Why was Bernadette Peters considered an ill fit for Gypsy?

I’ve been watching a lot of Gypsy versions lately(hence the joking post about a new revival) so I’m curious why Peters was considered an ill fit for this role. She played the Witch in Into the Woods and was plenty scary in that along with the stepmother in Cinderella as well as other roles. Vocally she’s not a huge belter but her voice fits the piece just fine to me. What gives? I think she was tremendous in the clips that I’ve seen of her.

#2

Why was Bernadette Peters considered an ill fit for Gypsy?

I saw this and all of the revivals since, also considering Bette Midler’s tv movie. Her voice was not good. I am not sure if she was ill or just exhausted, but she had a really rough time by the end of the 1st act. I also think her diminutive stature added to the ill fit and don’t get me started on those awful sets. The best thing about this revival was the logo. Really one of the most forgettable evenings in the theater I have ever had. I have loved her in so many shows, so this was so disappointing.

#3

Why was Bernadette Peters considered an ill fit for Gypsy?

She had some vocal challenges early in the run, but she was stunning at the performance I attended, similar to her Rose's Turn at the Tony Awards. I liked having a non-dowdy Rose who you could actually image being a star.

If you search for the previews ore reviews thread here, I imagine you'll find ample discussion about why her casting led to some questioning.

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Why was Bernadette Peters considered an ill fit for Gypsy?

I saw her four or five months into the run, and I thought she was terrific. Whatever vocal or health issues she had earlier in the run had definitely cleared up; she was in great voice. Maybe the sexiest Rose I’ve seen. And it’s true that when she did Rose’s Turn, you thought to yourself “This is a woman who really could have been a star” unlike some other Roses who seem completely delusional in that number.

Updated On: 8/9/26 at 08:42 PM

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Why was Bernadette Peters considered an ill fit for Gypsy?

She was definitely robbed of a Tony for this performance! Her shattered kewpie doll performance was so delicate and fragile and ground breaking, she knocked this out of the park, and had her early vocal issues not plagued her, I believe her reinterpretation of the role was has set a new benchmark for future roses.

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What's even more funny is June Havoc herself said, that over the years, Bernadette's portrayal was the closest interpretation that emulated her mother's spirit, since Rose was not brash or loud, but used her demure sweetness to get what she wanted. So to me, thats the highest compliment! And its unfortunate Ms. Peters had vocal issues, but, even hearing those supposed vocal issue performances it still was a master class to see her perform the role.

Updated On: 8/9/26 at 11:48 PM

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Her sexiness was a new take on Rose and really made certain scenes — like those with Herbie — work better than in the many other productions I’ve seen. And of course she used that to spectacular effect in her Rose’s Turn performance on the Tonys.


Michael Reidel really led the charge on this since Peters was out so often early in the run due to vocal issues. And she’s had vocal issues in other shows such as Sunday in the Park with George when, IIRC, they did retakes for the cast album when her voice was in better shape.


But the production otherwise was a bore - which Gypsy can be without the right direction.

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I don’t think I’ve heard of a performance that varied so much throughout the run (but I’ve never studied a performance as closely). During some previews Bernadette sounded awful captured in the one and only taped bootleg. By opening night and the cast recording her vocals were solid but her performance was a bit too restrained, almost as if Sam Mendes forgot how to direct for the stage and was directing her for film. By the end of the run (captured in a closing night bootleg) she completely let loose, with a terrifying Coming Up Roses and the best performance of Rose’s Turn I’ve ever heard. In comparison, I think Patti and Audra were chewing too much scenery by the end of their runs.

Bernadette’s performance varied so much I think people need to be clear when they saw it because otherwise people will be talking past each other as to which performance exactly Bernadette gave. Her vocally challenged previews, her solid but subdued run during the bulk of her run or her unhinged, extreme sprint towards the end.

Arthur Laurents had a whole chapter in his book mainly on directing. He believes Sam Mendes was the problem and takes full credit for her performing changing by the end which he describes took its rightful place amongst the Roses but was seen by not enough people and too late.

I also think part of the reason the production was tired and boring is because Arthur Laurents according to the Tulsa David B would not let Sam Mendes do anything he wanted. He speaks of Sam wanting Bernadette’s face to be running with makeup at the end of Rose’s turn completely desperate and low. Arthur Laurents said no.


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Updated On: 8/10/26 at 09:20 AM

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I never saw Bernadette, but Audra was definitely a Rose that took many forms during the evolution of their role, especially since Audra took a long time to finally get her mix right


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#10

Re: Why was Bernadette Peters considered an ill fit for Gypsy?

I am also among the group that thought that she gave a great performance. It may have helped that I saw this from the first row, which was a great place for seeing the ferocity of her Rose's Turn up close (in truth, of her whole performance).

For my money, she was the second-best Rose that I saw, after Angela Lansbury. I personally thought that Tyne Daly was too shrill, Linda Lavin unmemorable, and don't get me started on Audra Mac Donald, who I thought overacted to the point of caricature, and not a good caricature. I did not see Patti Lupone because, at the time, I was just 'all Gypsy'd out.'

I saw her twice in Follies and thought her voice was great in one performance, rough in the other. I guess that is what you had to deal with later in her career...inconsistent vocal quality in the harder songs.

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She's a brilliant actress and did some nuanced and powerful work.

But the score nor character really fit on her. Those huge brassy belting songs didn't sound like they naturally poured out of her. Bernadette is not a shouting personality and it's clear. In short, if you wrote the show for her, the score wouldn't sound that way.

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Saw Peters about eight or nine months into the run. Thought she was stunning, but that production was a slog.

Saw LuPone several times, City Center and Broadway. She along with that production were first class, but she did go a little overboard towards the end of the run. I think she got bored and kept having to entertain herself.

Saw Audra just before opening. She was terrific in the comedic moments, and found her end of the first act thrilling, but she cried way too much. Rose’s Turn was not the revelation people wanted it to be. The production was also subpar, and that casting? A stronger, more engaged director would have gotten her there.

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The Laurents' presence also casts a heavy shadow over Gypsy. The Roses that have been universally praised, Tony included, were directed by him.

Will someone ever win a Tony for the part that was not directed by the author? I think that comes to prove that when it comes to Gypsy, we are not ready to detach ourselves from his vision. If any other director wants to be greeted for having a different take, the piece needs to be left alone for a very long time. Otherwise, everyone expects the Laurents touch and it's not to the advantage of anyone with a different take on it from what we're used to.


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blaxx said: "Will someone ever win a Tony for the part that was not directed by the author? I think that comes to prove that when it comes to Gypsy, we are not ready to detach ourselves from his vision. If any other director wants to be greeted for having a different take, the piece needs to be left alone for a very long time. Otherwise, everyone expects the Laurents touch and it's not to the advantage of anyone with a different take on it from what we're used to."

Although I agree that there's probably something to what you're saying based on the logic, the sample size is far too low to draw any reliable empirical conclusions.

Updated On: 8/11/26 at 06:28 PM

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I saw her three times over the run, including during previews and towards closing, and with each viewing, her performance deepened and overall, I much preferred her, and the production, to the Patti and Audra versions.


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Soaring29 said: "I mean, Merman didn’t win. But I think Blaxxhas a point."

Merman was directed by Jerome Robbins. Only Laurents' directed Roses have won a Tony.


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kdogg36 said: "blaxx said: "Will someone ever win a Tony for the part that was not directed by the author? I think that comes to prove that when it comes to Gypsy, we are not ready to detach ourselves from his vision. If any other director wants to be greeted for having a different take, the piece needs to be left alone for a very long time. Otherwise, everyone expects the Laurents touch and it's not to the advantage of anyone with a different take on it from what we're used to."

Although I agree that there's probablysomething to what you're saying based on the logic, the sample size is far too low to draw any reliable empiricalconclusions.
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Maybe, but until we see a non-Laurents, non-purist helmed Gypsy have the same success I won't believe audiences can fully embrace a different take on the piece.


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Den3 said: "I saw her four or five months into the run, and I thought she was terrific. Whatever vocal or health issues she had earlier in the run had definitely cleared up; she was in great voice. Maybe the sexiest Rose I’ve seen. And it’s true that whenshe did Rose’s Turn, you thought to yourself “This is a woman who really could have been a star” unlike some other Roses who seem completely delusional in that number."

Except, they're supposed to seem delusional in that number. She struck me as an ill-fit for the role, but I totally admit that's partly because Merman set the standard. That was the second time she was put in a Merman role, and both times it just seemed odd to me. Physically, she's probably the closest to the actual Rose Hovick of any of the actresses who have played the role on Broadway. I don't know what that counts for, but is probably worth mentioning. (Edit: only saw after that this has been mentioned above.)

Did Peters really have trouble with the George score, and have to do retakes for the cast recording? I've never heard this and--considering her place in the pantheon of Sondheim singers--I'd be quite surprised.

Updated On: 8/12/26 at 10:48 PM

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joevitus said: "Den3 said: "I saw her four or five months into the run, and I thought she was terrific. Whatever vocal or health issues she had earlier in the run had definitely cleared up; she was in great voice. Maybe the sexiest Rose I’ve seen. And it’s true that whenshe did Rose’s Turn, you thought to yourself “This is a woman who really could have been a star” unlike some other Roses who seem completely delusional in that number."

Except, they're supposed to seem delusional in that number. She struck me as an ill-fit for the role, but I totally admit that's partly because Merman set the standard. Thatwas the second time she was put in a Merman role, and both times it just seemed odd to me. Physically, she's probably the closest to the actual Rose Hovick of any of the actresses who have played the role on Broadway. I don't know what that counts for, but is probably worth mentioning. (Edit: only saw after that this has been mentioned above.)

Did Peters really have trouble with the George score, and have to do retakes for the cast recording? I've never heard this and--considering her place in the pantheon of Sondheim singers--I'd be quite surprised.
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In fact, I saw Sunday in previews and she was very hoarse, and you can hear on the OBC where sections of songs were later inserted due to her hoarseness. There were articles about it in the Times at the time which attributed the issue to the intense days of previews where songs were still being written/replaced. I don’t recall ever hearing that she had any on-going significant issues after that, but there are obvious parallels between this and Gypsy.

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Dreamboy3 said: "you can hear on the OBC where sections of songs were later inserted due to her hoarseness."

Can you tell me which sections to listen to? I've owned that recording for over 30 years now and have never noticed it (not saying you're wrong--just wanting to know where to perk up my ears a bit more).

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Peters is the only Rose I’ve seen whom I actually believed could have had a career if she hadn’t been “born too soon and started too late.”


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AC126748 said: "Peters is the only Rose I’ve seen whom I actually believed could have had a career if she hadn’t been “born too soon and started too late.”"

But isn't that just her delusion? Isn't that the point?

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Rentaholic2 said: "AC126748 said: "Peters is the only Rose I’ve seen whom I actually believed could have had a career if she hadn’t been “born too soon and started too late.”"

But isn't that just her delusion? Isn't that the point?
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The only part of Rose's Turn I've ever taken to be complete and utter delusion is the idea that there's going to be a "this time." The rest of it always seems slightly journalistic to me. She might be losing her mind but she's finally telling the truth to some degree. Even the line "someone tell me when is it my turn" on the back of her saying she did it for everyone else is her final admission that that's not true. She did it for her.

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