Posted: 4/24/23 at 9:51am
She might have a point.
Remember when Miss Saigon and Cats returned to Broadway.......
Posted: 4/24/23 at 9:58am
Lupone has zero f*cks to give about Andrew Lloyd Webber and any/all of this works.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 10:08am
Love Patti but I don't reeeeeaally care what she has to say about Broadway, since she has removed herself from it.
LES MIS returned to Broadway 3 years after closing, and I expect Phantom will do the same.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 10:12am
Clearly she has not looked at the Phantom closing thread on this board.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 10:21am
Wait a minute....Patti LuPone is being petty and negative about something?
Posted: 4/24/23 at 10:28am
Pity the petty Patty.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 10:32am
She's just bitter because Glenn is rumored to be the revival Phantom.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 10:38am
I think Patti LuPone and Brian Cox should join forces for a speaking tour where they sit on stage for an hour and complain about things related to the entertainment industry.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 10:46am
As always Patti DGAF and I'm here for it.
Someone needs to speak the unbridled truth. I'm glad it's her.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 11:00am
Andy Cohen is the biggest pot stirrer in the world. I refuse to believe this wasnt't planned out to have Patti come on after Phantom closed to just let her rant.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 11:04am
I mean, she's a professional ALW hater, you have to give her credit...
Posted: 4/24/23 at 11:10am
BenjaminNicholas2 said: "Someone needs to speak the unbridled truth."
The problem with this is that it is not true. Her premise is that audiences are fixed and non-fungible. But they are not. With a lower nut, the show may well be viable in reliance on the same busloads on which it relied pre-closing announcement. Cf. Chicago. Will the return be good enough for the new model they adopt? TBD. Will I want to see it? Probably not.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 11:11am
That's a first. PL complaining?
Posted: 4/24/23 at 11:36am
She does have a point.
It took the show closing for me to go see it because I had zero interest since, while beautiful, is a very crappy show.
Let it die and bring it back after ALW kicks it so we can maybe get some revisions and a new vision that doesn’t have him meddling
Posted: 4/24/23 at 11:37am
She's right, but ya'll don't want to have that conversation.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 11:44am
Phantom4ever said: "Wait a minute....Patti LuPone is being petty and negative about something?"
I love her and she is a legend. And she is also completely exhausting.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 12:01pm
OhHiii said: "She's right, but ya'll don't want to have that conversation."
I do think the interest in Phantom will significantly wane between now and the time it "re"opens; the closing gave it a level of New Yorker interest that it hadn't had in 25 years, when most of its audience had been international & domestic tourists. This was its big moment. As with some other shows that have tried to return quickly, it might not ultimately have the staying power.
Of course, an artful and radically different approach could help it. But that's not what ALW or Cameron would ever dream of giving us in their lifetime.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 12:28pm
As someone who didn't like PHANTOM, I agree with Patti, but as someone who has a deep and lon-lived love affair with another show, I understand the feelings of devotees of PHANTOM and what they are going through right now. Seriously, it''s like you've lost your best friend and you're grieving. In this case it's best just to keep your mouth shut.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 12:36pm
quizking101 said: "Let it die and bring it back after ALW kicks it so we can maybe get some revisions and a new vision that doesn’t have him meddling"
Given that ALW has just lost his son, why do you think it appropriate to make this nasty comment about the eventual passing of ALW himself?
Posted: 4/24/23 at 1:08pm
Honestly, I'd be more interested in seeing Patti LuPone being positive about something other than herself.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 1:16pm
Patti LuPone says "You've not been paying enough attention to me. Pay attention to meeeeee."
Posted: 4/24/23 at 2:46pm
Highland Guy said: "quizking101 said: "Let it die and bring it back after ALW kicks it so we can maybe get some revisions and a new vision that doesn’t have him meddling"
Given that ALW has just lost his son, why do you think it appropriate to make this nasty comment about the eventual passing of ALW himself?
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At no point did I say I wished him dead - I’m acknowledging the fact that there will likely not be any chance for some major creative overhauling for a very long time (after he passes), and so they should wait until then to bring it back
Posted: 4/24/23 at 3:11pm
Patti is allowed to have her opinions and it's always fun to hear snark. Lord knows she went through it with Sunset Boulevard, so I'm not surprised she'd speak frankly about how little she cares for Phantom or ALW.
...but she's wrong. Sure, plenty of people have seen it, but plenty of people haven't. Heck people in NY still haven't seen it because they thought "it would always be there!" We've all heard that refrain from folks these last few days.
And people rewatch classic movies all the time don't they? Or discover them for the first time? So, how is that different from going to see Phantom, even though it opened 35 years ago?
Patti starred in Gypsy, which has been performed so many times any self-respecting theatre geek knows the score inside out and backwards. So? Are people not supposed to enjoy it anymore?
I think at the end of the day, Patti has her own ideas about how Broadway should work. Didn't she speak about "term limits"? Yeah.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 3:16pm
Highland Guy said: "this nasty comment about the eventual passing of ALW himself."
I also did not read this as nasty, unless you believe in immortality.
Tempted to say something about "shuffling" but I won't.
Posted: 4/24/23 at 4:17pm
Oh for Pete's sake Patti, cheer up. 
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