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#26

Re: Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/2/26

If RAGTIME was making significant money, they would be keeping it open. LCT (or any non profit right now) is not in the position to be closing hits they could run.

#27

Re: Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/2/26

BJR said: "If RAGTIME was making significant money, they would be keeping it open. LCT (or any non profit right now) is not in the position to be closing hits they could run."

These are nonprofit entities and they become producer-landlords once the production goes commercial and they get less revenue from ticket sales. And in the case of LCT, they lose their only Broadway stage and ability to program a Broadway season. There are very valid reasons that most nonprofits just don't keep extending their hits. Basically only Roundabout can do it by virtue of the fact that they have 3 Broadway stages.


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#28

Re: Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/2/26

BJR said: "If RAGTIME was making significant money, they would be keeping it open. LCT (or any non profit right now) is not in the position to be closing hits they could run."

Also, if the stars weren't willing to extend, they may have decided it wouldn't be viable to continue with a replacement cast. People want to see Joshua Henry.


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#29

Re: Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/2/26

Kad said: "When nonprofit Broadway productions convert to commercial runs, their costs increase substantially. All of the Broadway nonprofits run on modified LORT contracts, bringing with them much lower costs. However, the catch here is that they only enjoy that benefit for their originally scheduled run:if they extend beyond that, they must convert to the standard Production contract like every other Broadway show and lose the perks of being nonprofit. (Not sure how this affects the other union contracts, but the increase in talent costs alone will be substantial). Given Ragtime’s size, I would imagine this has meant that, even considering its success, it has likely only been marginally profitable week after week and will still be closing at a sizable loss this month."

Your answer raises several other questions. Sorry for my ignorance on this topic, but I want to make sure I understand.

Ragtime opens last fall at a Lincoln Center, a nonprofit. Contracts are modified. Does that mean every performer - from Joshua Henry to the members of the orchestra - was paid less during the nonprofit run?

The show sells well. In January, it converts to a commercial run. No more LORT contracts. Now it’s just a regular commercial production with LCT as the producer-landlord. Is the commercial production starting over, in a sense?

Ragtime continues to sell well but the show must close, at least at Lincoln Center, to make way for A Few Good Men and probably because the stars are ready to move on. Musical revivals, even successful ones, generally have a limited shelf life. So despite full houses and high ticket prices, the musical is actually a commercial flop for its investors.

Did any entity make money on Ragtime? The performers, and perhaps other unions, get paid as if they’re in a commercial show starting in January. Did LCT make a profit because it was their show and then they were the landlord? Or did its large cast eat that up?

I realize the dynamics of nonprofits are complex, but your explanation makes it seem foolish to extend it. What was the financial incentive to do so? The higher costs were going to eat most of the profits and make it impossible to recoup even though it’s been Lincoln Center’s best-selling musical revival in years.

Please correct the assumptions I have wrong because I probably have a lot.

Updated On: 8/6/26 at 02:46 AM

#30

Re: Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/2/26

bear882 said: "Ragtime opens last fall at Lincoln Center, a nonprofit. Contracts are modified. Does that mean every performer- from Joshua Henry to the members of the orchestra - was paid less during the nonprofit run?"

Short answer, yes. But, a star or veteran actor can still negotiate above whatever minimum is offered in the nonprofit contract period.

"The show sells well. In January, it converts to a commercial run. No more LORT contracts. Now it’s just a regular commercial production with LCT as the producer-landlord. Is the commercial production starting over, in a sense?"

Yes, basically. The contract is changed to a Broadway production contract, across the board - from actors and stagehands, up to producers and landlord.

"Did any entity make money on Ragtime? The performers, and perhaps other unions, get paid as if they’re in a commercial show starting in January. Did LCT make a profit because it was their show and then they were the landlord? Or did its large cast eat that up?"

Every entity starts making more money once it flips to a production contract. Actors and other union workers get a higher weekly pay, LCT collects more rent, and any commercial producers or investors who sweetened LCT’s production budget get a little payout as long as it stays a hit for the remaining weeks of its run.

"I realize the dynamics of nonprofits are complex, but your explanation makes it seem foolish to extend it. What was the financial incentive to do so? The higher costs were going to eat most of the profits and make it impossible to recoup even though it’s been Lincoln Center’s best-selling musical revival in years."

​​​​​​​The financial incentive is that LCT collects rent during what would otherwise be a dark time in their calendar for that space. They could, theoretically, have preemptively closed it at the end of its initial run and made no additional money between then and A Few Good Men. Maybe they could have mounted a brief production before the fall, but that ultimately would have been more costly than keeping a current hit running as long as it can.

#31

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Kad said: "BJR said: "If RAGTIME was making significant money, they would be keeping it open. LCT (or any non profit right now) is not in the position to be closing hits they could run."

These are nonprofit entities and they become producer-landlords once the production goes commercial and they get less revenue from ticket sales. And in the case of LCT, they lose their only Broadway stage and ability to program a Broadway season. There are very valid reasons that most nonprofits just don't keep extending their hits. Basically only Roundabout can do it by virtue of the fact that they have 3 Broadway stages.
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This is true, but missing some nuance, no? Non-profits can build extensions into the LORT contract, which avoids the commercialization bit because the "original run" is considered to include those extensions, even if not publicly available for sale. Institutions can decide to put on any number of weeks on sale as they choose, they don't have to put everything on at the time of on sale. This is how they keep actors contracted so they don't schedule something else over a possible extension period, to my understanding. If they don't have it in their contract, they can do whatever they want.

However, extensions beyond what was built in do indeed bump up the contract to production as you note, Kad. That's my understanding, but admittedly not 100% certain.

#32

Re: Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/2/26

Yes, there are extensions that are part of the original LORT contract for the production; they tend to be built-in to the contract that everyone signs onto initially and may or may not end up being utilized. I believe there are limits on how long the LORT contract can be used for nonprofit Broadway runs before they must switch over. The use of these contracts is kind of a sweetheart deal for the nonprofits so there are limitations to prevent them from being abused or undercutting commercial producers.


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