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Zeppie2022 said: "
Meanwhile you seemed to miss the post in this thread where a trans person for American Airlines did a great job helping my wife and I this week that I addressed to you. Funny, how you can overlook it but ready to jump hoops to say I am part of some right wing ploy. Oh well Kdogg, I thought you were better than others who have posted."

Wow, you let a Trans person work for you without calling them a slur. Just so you know, that Trans person hates you.

Zeppie2022 said: ""He continues to reveal, as perhaps never before, that he is simply a disgusting MAGA-TROLL. This thread contributes to the abuse of the Trans Community and is beneath BWW standards. "

OMG, you are pathetic. Anybody who does not support your beliefs is a disgusting MAGA troll. As I stated in another thread, how did I abuse the trans community?Did I speak ill of the boxer, the answer is no. Did I question the decision by Olympic governing body to let the boxer to participate, the answer is yes. Lots of people in the sports worldare questioning the decision and not just me and MAGA trolls. So discussing news story is beneath BWW standards, really."

You. Called. Her. A. Man.

"No, I called her a little bitch because she's a little bitch."

The main reason I mentioned the comment was that if I made the exact same comment others like HG would be up in arms trying to get me suspended -lol.

"Wow, you let a Trans person work for you without calling them a slur. Just so you know, that Trans person hates you. "

Talk about tiresome. The trans person did their job and did it very well. Why would the trans person hate my wife and I? Trust me, we would have rather not had our luggage lost. Were we rude and nasty to the trans person and take out our frustrations on her, the answer is no. I truly doubt she hated my wife and I but if that makes you feel better that she did hate us for some unknown reason enjoy that thought -lol.

Zeppie2022 said: Cmon Kdogg, you are better than this I thought. You did not answer the question. The reason you don't see biological women compete in men's sports is because they don't have any physical advantage over men. It is totally the opposite when it comes to biological men playing in women's sports. It is totally relevant to the discussion.

It's rare, but Ciswomen do play against men in high school football. There are COUNTLESS coed sports leagues in the US.

Here's a Transman competing in Men's Fencing at Wayne State University

https://wsuathletics.com/news/2023/3/28/trans-male-fencer-bobbie-hirsch-is-making-history-at-wayne-state-university.aspx

Chris Mosier, Transman who competed on the Men's Team. Schuyler Bailar, Transman who competed on a NCAA Division 1 men's team. ​Mack Beggs, a transman who was forced to wrestle in the Women's Division due to Texas State Law and oops! 2017 and 2018 championship. But i guess thats okay, because he should be wrestling women despite what he looks like. But shockingly, you dont afford that same courtesy to a cisgender female boxer.​​​​​​

Talk about tiresome. The trans person did their job and did it very well. Why would the trans person hate my wife and I?Trust me, we would have rather not had our luggage lost. Were we rude and nasty to the trans person and take out our frustrations on her, the answer is no. I truly doubt she hated my wife and I but if that makes you feel better that she did hate us for some unknown reason enjoy that thought -lol."

Because you hate people like her and people you can pretend are like her because they don't pass your little vibe check.

@Zeppie2022, you initiated a thread with the statement:

"A biological man fighting a woman in boxing must stop before a female boxer is killed."

Please note that Imane Khelif is a cisgender woman. She was born female, registered as a girl at birth, legally recognized as a woman, and identifies as a woman.

She is from a country that would not permit an openly gay Olympian, let alone an openly transgender one.

While I am not certain of your political views, it is important to acknowledge that this thread was based on misinformation. At no point have you admitted that the information presented was incorrect. Recognizing and admitting the truth is the first step. If you cannot acknowledge the facts, it is challenging to expect any argument made to be in good faith.

Zeppie2022 said: "Meanwhile you seemed to miss the post in this thread where a trans person for American Airlines did a great job helping my wife and I this week that I addressed to you. Funny, how you can overlook it but ready to jump hoops to say I am part of some right wing ploy. Oh well Kdogg, I thought you were better than others who have posted."

I appreciate that you are nice to transgender individuals, but that's a different thing than openly supporting trans rights and full trans acceptance. I don't expect everyone to be an activist, of course, but I hope you're spending at least as much time (elsewhere, obviously) advocating for trans acceptance as you are on this (much less important, I think) topic.

"To the intelligent posters in this sad thread: Stop allowing Flash, Pauly and this person to ever get to you or waste your energy fighting with them. They are never worth it and will never change."

Just for the record. Ms. Ross sent me a PM awhile ago where she alleged "Jay Lerner-Z" threated to kill her and was banned for life. All of this was a lie, I got it confirmed by moderators and obviously "Jay Lerner-Z" is still posting. Ms. Ross was also suspended for quite awhile, I assume 30 days but that really does not matter. In PM, she lied once again and said took PMs from people, she does not accept any and it was not just me being blocked -lol. After this post, she may accept them to try and say I lied - ha ha. In addition, she said she would never respond to anything I ever posted again -lol. In the PM she called me horrible names and made false accusations, I was stunned. I can provide proof because I saved the PM if anybody cares. The PM I mentioned was titled "Don't".

"Algerian sports officials and other Algerian athletes have spoken in Imane's defense, including national team soccer player Ismaël Bennacer who said Khelif is "suffering a wave of unjustified hatred." People, including the mis-informed OP contributes to the violence against trans people leading to their daily murder rates worldwide. Imane Khelif is a WOMAN."

So tennis greats Chris Evert, Martina Navratilova and Boris Becker who have said this is wrong are contributing to violence of trans people -ok. Get out of your tiny bubble Ms. Ross and read sports pages filled with athletes condemning governing bodies allowing this to happen. BTW - I seem to remember the "Lia Thomas" thread where you sang a different tune about this very subject. Actually, you thanked me for providing evidence of studies proving that biological men have big physical advantage over women. It would take some time but I hopefully could find that thread again if needed.

"He literally patted himself on the back for being nice to a trans person. Do you want a gold medal, sweetie? Do you have a black friend too? Oh, and anyone who provides too many details about their "nice life" doesn't have one. He reads the NY Post and BELIEVES it. It tells you everything you need to know"

Nice try Ms. Ross. I mentioned that encounter because after a very long travel day the last thing we needed was luggage to be lost. The American Airlines attendant did excellent job tracking down the bags since the baggage claim numbers were not showing up on the computer. We appreciated her effort with her supervisor to track down our bags. I only mentioned she was "trans" because of a comment that "Kdogg" made earlier in this thread. Basically, the point was that not everyone who is not very liberal treat trans people badly. I am sure you will try and twist these comments into something bad but that is who you are.

Actually, I don't have any black friends. I guess you think that makes me a bigot -lol

"Oh, and anyone who provides too many details about their "nice life" doesn't have one"

You can believe whatever you want Ms. Ross. Just for the record, HG made some comment about me going back to hide under some slimy rock. Due to that I figured why not be a bit "snarky" and mention those things to him and others.

"This op admitted they didn't vote for Clinton, Obama, or Biden, three true leaders. "

Wrong again Ms. Ross. I voted for Clinton once, if I did not state that accurately then it is my bad.

"U.S. swimmer Michael Phelps, celebrated as the greatest swimmer of all time, has a genetic condition where his body produces half of the lactic acid of a normal biological man. For this biological quirk (along with his hyper-mobility) he is lauded. "

OMG - lol. Did Michael Phelps win his gold medals competing against women, the answer is no. Did Michael Phelps ever fail a "gender" test, the answer is no. The comparison you tried to make is just ridiculous.

"Think about who you are dealing with and let's move past it and them. Straight white men are the actual snowflakes because when you call them out or call them "MAGA" they lose their collective minds"

First, how do you know everybody you mentioned is white? The problem is people like you call everyone who does not kiss the butt of Biden/Harris and the Democratic party "MAGA" and it gets old. There are people whose views are in the "middle" and I know quite a few who hate both parties with a passion.

"One of whom is a violent rapist who hired Roy Cohn to fix that whole "I don't let black people rent apartments in my building thing"."

For the record, did you mind Bill Clinton having oral sex in the Oval office with an intern? I can only imagine your comments if Trump did the same thing. Are all those women accusing Clinton of rape and sexual misconduct liars?

Let me end this with a couple of other notes. Ms. Ross has previously told me I was not welcome on this board because BWW is mostly liberal. This can be be verified by Jay Lerner-Z who disagrees with me very often. People like Ms. Ross and HG talk "big" here because they know they will be backed up by their fellow liberals. Have a good day everyone.

Updated On: 8/4/24 at 11:53 AM

Updated On: 8/4/24 at 06:11 PM

Sutton you give morons what they want by caring too much. They thrive on it. Landslide 2024!

"I have great news! Neither did Imane, so now that that has been settled would you apologize for calling her a man?"

I wish you all would read all the posts in the thread if you want to call me out on saying something. Read post #9. I said it was reported by Pat McAfee (ESPN) that Imane was transgender. He is a sports guy not some right wing nut job so I took his word. He made a mistake and in post #9, I said than this is a totally different issue. I then pivoted in this thread to the overall issue of fairness of a biological men competing against women in sports. That being said, please explain why Imane failed a gender identity test and has male chromosomes.

There is no need for me to discuss any further. I have explained my position many times now. So let's review one last time. I think biological men competing against women in sports is basically cheating. The science has proven that biological men have physical advantage over women and to try to compare this to advantage Mike Phelps had physically is absurd IMO. Boxing is very dangerous sport and if a biological man ever fought a woman the danger IMO would be a lot worse. The reporting on Imane being transgender was incorrect and I will admit I trusted the reporting of ESPN analyst. I don't know about you but somebody who has failed a gender test makes me skeptical that they don't have physical advantage.

Updated On: 8/5/24 at 11:13 PM

Zeppie2022 said: ""I wish you all would read all the posts in the thread if you want to call me out on saying something. Read post #9. I said it was reported by Pat McAfee (ESPN) that Imane was transgender. He is a sports guy not some right wing nut job so I took his word. He made a mistake and in post #9, I said than this is a totally different issue. I then pivoted in this thread to the overall issue of fairness of a biological men competing against women in sports. That being said, please explain why Imane failed a gender identity test and has male chromosomes.

There is no need for me to discuss any further. I have explained my position many times now. So let's review one last time. I think biological men competing against women in sports is basically cheating. The science has proven that biological men have physical advantage over women and to try to compare this to advantage Mike Phelps had physically is absurd IMO. Boxing is very dangerous sport and if a biological man ever fought a woman the danger IMO would be a lot worse. The reporting on Imane being transgender was incorrect and I will admit I trusted the reporting of ESPN analyst. I don't know about you but somebody who has failed a gender test makes me skeptical that they don't have physical advantage."

Imane fought in IBA sanctioned tournaments for years, not until she fought and beat a Russian Fighter did the IBA come foreword with this alleged failure of a "gender test". Let it be known that the IBA is ran by a Russian Oligarch that the IOC stopped recognizing them as a regulatory board some years ago because they're a shady organization to begin with. The IBA never said what specific test Imane failed and one person (who is also no longer with the IBA) claimed she had XY chromosomes. None of them have provided any evidence or documentation to support this.

Imane is a woman fighting in her weight class at the Olympics and you'd rather believe and chase around this conspiracy theory than just accept that.

Maybe we could actually try doing RESEARCH before you listen to some random ESPN announcer.

https://apnews.com/article/olympics-2024-khelif-russia-boxing-b53b1edda21139d14a572bd35ca440e6

Updated On: 8/5/24 at 10:11 AM

South Florida said: "Sutton you give morons what they want by caring too much. They thrive on it. Landslide 2024!"

Aw, I love you bb but caring about America and human beings is something I will never regret. When a person creates a thread to offend, hurt, and peddle a false narrative, I will call them out. Every time. This person has contributed to this woman's horrible experience of verbal abuse and people threatening to have her entire family murdered. And yet, he refuses to admit he was wrong, issue an apology or ask the moderators to delete the thread due to his ego. Instead he blames it on an ESPN reporter, and just deflects over and over again as if that reporter created this thread?

OP, Trump, and Vance are all the same version of a person: Ignorant, cruel, delusional, and have a deep, deep hatred of women. The evidence is clear. At first, I questioned why the mods did not delete this thread. But, now I'm glad it will be here forever. It exposes a person who pretended to not be political, to a person who slowly started insulting our Joey Robinette, to a full MAGA agenda in a matter of months. People like this can never admit when they mess up. These people double and triple down even when there is tons of evidence to refute their claims, like this statement from the Boston Globe about Ms. Khelif .That is why character matters. The OP has none. The smart thing for him to do was apologize and then go away for awhile. But, as we've seen just like Trump and his other heroes, he never will. Straight white men who have never been held accountable for their actions are among the most terrifying people in existence. Their mantra is "I did nothing wrong" for a reason.

With that being said, there should never be such garbage on a website about the theater arts, one of life's greatest pleasures. No threads from the three posters that create division and hatred here will exist the next time I sign in. Poof, gone forever. What a beautiful thing to never think about these monsters again. Afterall, in the age of information, ignorance is a choice.

I will see you lovely liberals in the election thread tho!

Updated On: 8/6/24 at 11:04 AM