In 1975, Saigon was full of white bar girls- Page 2
In 1975, Saigon was full of white bar girls
#25in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 2:17pmDoodle, I loved that. She looked like Serena from "Bewitched."
#26in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 2:25pm
OMG, I thought the same thing!!!
You'd love the middle aged woman...yikes!
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#27in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 2:27pmIt's hard to search for a white Effie, since her name is Effie White!
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#29in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 3:05pm
I'm exhausted...at least I found that Serena Effie...
I think I hate that song now.
But, I've proven my point...a white girl can play Effie White.
Now, can a SKINNY girl play her?
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Phyllis Rogers Stone
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#32in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 3:31pmSusan Boyle would make a fabulous Effie.
....but the world goes 'round
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#34in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 3:37pm
"YES... if there are no asians in the area then don't freaking do THE KING AND I... the damn show is about an asian king and his family... so what the hell would you cast a white person for? just to boost your ego?"
And to hell with Yul Brynner. What does he know anyway?
Meow!
#35in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 3:40pmYul Brynner was hapa.
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#36in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 3:45pmHas it ever been worked out what Brynner's actual ethnicity was (beyond Russian)? I know he claimed some partial Mongol heritage at some point, but didn't his son later dispute that?
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#37in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 3:52pm
Sorry but once you stretch it out so many generations that you neither remember nor can prove your heritage, then the gene pool has been thinned to the point of just not counting anymore.
This whole discussion is stupid. I've heard more arguments on these boards for color blind casting than anyplace else but apparently it only holds for colors other than white. I read a thread that gave justification for a black Helen Keller with her Chinese brother and Hispanic mother. And you still believe an all white high school shouldn't put on Miss Saigon or The King and I? Nuts.
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#38in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 3:52pmi thought he just exagerrated the mongolian but that his father did have some mongolian blood.
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#39in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 4:13pm
Yay...thanks for finding that! I added it to my favorites.
Here is Nancy Wilton's website, with pictures!
http://nancyandjohn.homestead.com/stage.html
"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."
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#40in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 4:13pm
This whole discussion is stupid. I've heard more arguments on these boards for color blind casting than anyplace else but apparently it only holds for colors other than white.
Oh. Lord.
#41in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 4:14pmI think the best thing was in the movie CAMP when that girl does EFFIE to the little black kid.
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#42in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 6:03pmthis discussion is NOT stupid... the stupid thing about this discussion is that many (not all) white people feel like they should be able to play any role they want and there is no discussion about it... but when a minority wants to play the role it becomes a huge freaking issue... like that previous poster mentioned about Cat on a Hot Tin Room... i've said it an every post i've been a part of discussing color blind casting... i truly believe that it's meant for minorities to play white roles and not the other way around... play semantics all you want to feed some self indulgent ego so that a white person should be allowed to play KIM or COALHOUSE all you want, but that's just not how i personally feel color blind casting should go...
#43in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 6:13pmI think there should be a Black production of White Noise.
....but the world goes 'round
#44in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 6:16pm
I think there should be a Black production of White Noise.
Outrageous.
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#45in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 9:14pmYeah, but I feel like race is totally irrelevant in casting high school shows, because your race doesn't affect how much you suck up to the director.
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#46in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 9:44pm
Of course it was outrageous Ray, that was my point.
Everyone is talking in absolutes about colorblind casting. There are indeed some roles that are inappropriate for a person of a different ethnicity than that of the chracter to play.
A white Caroline in Caroline or Change?
A black Roy Cohn in Angels In America?
In High School however where the goal is to teach teens about theater and the audience is mostly frineds and family I think is fine.
But on a professional level there has to be some recognition of the themes and the authors intention.
And just to be clear, I'm referring to roles where the ethnicity
is a fundamental motivation for a character's actions.
....but the world goes 'round
Updated On: 4/21/09 at 09:44 PM
#47in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 10:04pm
Taz, I was being facetious 
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
#48in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 10:11pm
Yeah, but I feel like race is totally irrelevant in casting high school shows, because your race doesn't affect how much you suck up to the director.
Bwahahaha!
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#49in 1975, saigon was full of white bar girls
Posted: 4/21/09 at 10:15pm
Miss Saigon New Zealand Premiere-the most beautiful production out there
Updated On: 4/21/09 at 10:15 PM
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