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If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....

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ljay889
#1If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 3:37am

If Barbara Cook stayed with Carrie The Musical for its infamous Broadway run; do you think being associated with that bomb would have hurt her career at all?

By then, Cook was a real legend, so I cannot imagine her being part of something like that on Broadway.

It didn't hurt Buckley's career, but she wasn't quite at Cook's "status" yet. It also didn't hurt a young Charlotte d'Amboise. It seems the show hurt Debbie Allen's career the most.

What do you think?



Updated On: 12/7/08 at 03:37 AM

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WithoutATrace
#2re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 3:38am

No. Barbara would have survived and her career would have still thrived.

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FlyingMonkey1223
#2re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 3:51am

Linzi Hately has had a decent career in the UK.

Mattbrain
#3re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 10:06am

In my opinion, I'm glad that Barbara Cook left the production because Betty was 10 times better than her in the role!


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#4re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 10:37am

I don't think being a part of one bomb can really hurt anybody's career.


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#5re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 11:19am

I was glad she left the show, she was horrid in it, she had zero aspects of Margaret, Buckley was far better


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cfmiller
#6re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 11:36am

Dorothy Loudon survived numerous bombs and managed to thrive and be beloved.

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CurtisTaylorJr2
#7re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 11:49am

I don't think so, performers can survive flops. Barbara Cook was already established then, so it wouldn't have hurt her.

#8re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 11:49am

Being in a bomb CAN hurt your career. nanette Fabray made a big splash in HIgh Button Shoes and Bloomer Girl. Love Life and Arms and the Girl were supposed to make her a star but both shows tanked. she went on to be a tv personality. Same thing with Susan Johnson. She made a splash in The Most Happy Fella and should have gone on to stardom in Oh Captain! but that also was a failure. Just goes to show you never know. it can look like a hit on paper and then everything can go wrong leaving us all wondering what could have been.

Mattbrain
#9re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 2:28pm

Thank you, songanddanceman. She was totally wrong for the role. Listening to her on the bootleg, she was just too...nice to be Margaret. Do you understand what I'm saying?

And splendero, Barbara Cook had already been in a flop before Carrie and that was Candide.


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husk_charmer
#10re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 2:42pm

Cook had had several flops before Carrie.

And, the show did not do wonders for Buckley. Afterwards she kinda disappeared. She didn't return for almost 10 years.


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#11re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 2:47pm

The original UK window card:
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Barbara Cook and Linzi Hately in rehearsal:
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#12re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 3:07pm

That logo(and the art in general) is still better than most we have nowadays.


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songanddanceman2
#13re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 3:44pm

I really hated the Logo, it did not match the tone of the show at all, it took itself to seriously.

The UK program makes me laugh, i got it when i was about 9 when i want to watch Carrie, i found it in a box of junk at my mums when she was moving to Turkey.It looks like the pictures of the cast were taken for a production of Fame lol


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Mildred Plotka
#14re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 7:03pm

Do you realize how many flops Barbara Cook has been in?

Flahooley
Candide
The Gay Life
Something More!
The Grass Harp

She managed to survive those bombs. She would have triumphed after Carrie as well.


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sondheimboy2
#15re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 7:47pm

Barbara already was into the thriving "second half" of her career on the concert stage when "Carrie" happened. Her even doing "Carrie" seemed like a fluke.


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ljay889
#16re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/7/08 at 8:40pm

Yeah, but those flops aren't as infamous as Carrie.

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jeniferrenepatricia
#17re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/8/08 at 2:09am

Betty was much better in the role, but I disagree that she disappeared for 10 years......

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1993 major concert appearance: george and ira gershwin: a musical celebration

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A Director
#18re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/8/08 at 2:17am

Do you realize how many flops, Liza has been in?

Flora, The Red Menace
The Act
The Rink

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jeniferrenepatricia
#19re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/8/08 at 2:21am

good point...If the fans love them enough, they'll survive no matter what.


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Mildred Plotka
#20re: If Barbara Cook stayed with CARRIE for Broadway....
Posted: 12/8/08 at 2:31am

Though some performers, Karen Morrow comes immediately to mind, leave Broadway by choice in fear of being associated with another flop.

Larry Grossman is one of my favorite composers and he's never had a hit on Broadway.


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