I find that most people do their matinees on Tony day.
There seems to be a tendency for people to call out sick the week after the Tony's - that's when almost all of the leads of The King and I were out last year due to illness. The extra press work and rehearsals they have to do leading up to the Tony's is very taxing, I'm sure.
You know things have gone wrong when there are over 250 tickets on resale for many performances and someone bought an entire row of rear mezzanine and put those seats on resale. Oh, none of these seats are lower than 500 dollars, and some even go high up to 2,000. Free market, huh? It seems quite ironic to refrain from making "moral arguments" on a subject that is highly centered around the exploration of several moral topics.
We got the business end of a bayonet budget-wise but as of this morning at 7:01am California time we're in the 3rd row orch just off center in November. I knew I had a two-week window of performances when we'd be in NYC. I have been watching the seating charts for all those performances since Amex pre sale started. I figured out quickly that all seats went on sale then and the mezzes were not going to happen. We then honestly evaluated what experiencing a game-changing moment in Broadway history was worth to us and set our sights on two seats for one particular performance. Did a final seat check yesterday before the Ticketmaster site predictably went down for maintenance last night--yup, still there. I was all signed in on Ticketmaster with my payment preloaded and had my cursor over those two seats when the countdown started this morning. Click and done. Research and preparation paid off. Adventure complete. It was weirdly fun. Now comes ten months of anticipation and piggy bank-filling. How lucky we are to be alive right now!
Dancingthrulife2 said: "It seems quite ironic to refrain from making "moral arguments" on a subject that is highly centered around the exploration of several moral topics."
No one said they opposed moral arguments on here, only that they don't stand well as a legal arguments, as they were being presented earlier.
dmollen111 said: "What do we think the likelihood of the original cast being there on Sunday, June 12 matinee, given that the Tony Awards are that night?
"Lin does not perform on Sunday Matinees, and beginning in March he will not perform on Saturday Matinees either.
PrincessJae said: "Lin does not perform on Sunday Matinees, and beginning in March he will not perform on Saturday Matinees either."
I believe they are switching the schedule for when Lin has his show off, not adding to it. According to the Hamilton website:
Javier Muñoz will play the role of Alexander Hamilton during the following performances: Saturday Matinees: March 28, 2016 - September 3, 2016. Sunday Matinees: Now thru March 27, 2016.
That would mean that Lin is playing Hamilton on Sundays throughout the spring and summer. They haven't released the fall arrangement yet.
haterobics said: "Dancingthrulife2 said: "It seems quite ironic to refrain from making "moral arguments" on a subject that is highly centered around the exploration of several moral topics."
No one said they opposed moral arguments on here, only that they don't stand well as a legal arguments, as they were being presented earlier.
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thank you for saving me the time of having to respond!
moral arguments can and will be made. all the time. but that doesn't mean it should dictate or influence a legal argument since we all have our own moral compass and personal values based on a number of factors including where we live, what we do, how we were raised, what we believe, etc. it is a moving target for every single individual. if you do not like the fact that individuals are legally taking advantage of the free market and supply-and-demand economics with the resale option, go ahead and lead the movement to either publicly change it, through legal recourse and legislation, or privately change it, through the adoption of a new resale policy by TM. either avenue is unlikely to yield successful results.
JM226 said: "if you do not like the fact that individuals are legally taking advantage of the free market and supply-and-demand economics with the resale option, go ahead and lead the movement to either publicly change it, through legal recourse and legislation, or privately change it, through the adoption of a new resale policy by TM. either avenue is unlikely to yield successful results.
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so your point is that despite consumers getting screwed (legally) by rent-seeking parasite scalpers, they should shut up about it or embark on (admittedly futile, according to you) legislative or consumer advocacy crusades. the reason you see so much anger on BWW, Facebook, Twitter, etc. is precisely because of the futility you've identified. it's legal conduct, and now TicketMaster [via TM Resale] is incentivized to be anti-consumer and pro-scalper because it gets a bigger share of the pie by doing so. no one is on our side. that's why there's anger in public forums like this. and why there's anger at people like you who defend these reprehensible companies' behavior as if they're the next henry ford.
Correct: Lin will be SWITCHING which performance he sits out, not adding another one.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Yeah, this whole thing is now obnoxious. $549 for a ticket? I'm glad I saw it at The Public for $100. Enjoy guys. I wonder how many people registered for the lottery today.
franch2 said: "so your point is that despite consumers getting screwed (legally) by rent-seeking parasite scalpers, they should shut up about it or embark on (admittedly futile, according to you) legislative or consumer advocacy crusades. the reason you see so much anger on BWW, Facebook, Twitter, etc. is precisely because of the futility you've identified. it's legal conduct, and now TicketMaster [via TM Resale] is incentivized to be anti-consumer and pro-scalper because it gets a bigger share of the pie by doing so. no one is on our side. that's why there's anger in public forums like this. and why there's anger at people like you who defend these reprehensible companies' behavior as if they're the next henry ford.
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Exactly. Legal or not, people have every right to be outraged, and they should say so and make themselves heard. Of course, technically, saying it here will have no influence whatsoever, but people taking about it is the first step. The next is things like the Attorney Generals move against exactly those scalpers and TM fees.
In the capitalistic world especially we NEED to speak up and let those rich people on top know that they can't do whatever the hell they want. These ticket prices are ridiculous, and the producers should be told. And I think the press should talk about this side of Hamilton as well, next to all the love letters the show is getting.
I won't say any more because this would end in a philosophical and/or political argument. We will probably just have to agree to disagree. But I for my part won't not talk about things that are wrong just because they are legal or a consequence of the political environment we live in.
Does anybody know if they will actively kick people out for sitting in the wheelchair seats? I see resale tickets for that area, but I don't want to get kicked out. Also, please don't ignore! If you know anything whatsoever, I'd love to hear it. I don't want these to go away!
I won't be any help. I've wondered about the handicapped seating as well. They were snapped up (presumably by resellers) early in the presale and I wondered what would happen if someone not in a wheelchair used them.
Something to consider: Aren't some of the handicapped "seats" just actually open spaces for wheelchairs with companion seating next to them?
funhamilton_rent said: "Does anybody know if they will actively kick people out for sitting in the wheelchair seats? I see resale tickets for that area, but I don't want to get kicked out. Also, please don't ignore! If you know anything whatsoever, I'd love to hear it. I don't want these to go away!
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When I saw the show a few weeks ago I got my tickets via the cancellation line and I was given a seat in the wheel chair area. All it really is is free standing chairs that can be removed if someone has a wheelchair. Every person in the seats the night I was there was not handicapped in any way. I would say grab those seats as the view is TERRIFIC there!
"I'd rater be nine peoples favorite thing, than a hundred peoples ninth favorite thing"
Copped! I am SO excited now! The tix were for the Tony day matinee! I'll probably miss part of the awards b/c of the train ride back, but who cares? In seeing the show that will win them all anyway!
Don't blame the scalpers blame the consumer. If you don't buy the overpriced tickets it will stop eventually. I'm tired of this overhype that is just feeding this frenzy. It's a great show but not worthy of this kind of price gouging. I'm glad I saw it for $77 but I would never consider paying more than the face value for any show. I work too hard for my dough.
The only review of a show that matters is your own.
1. Both the resale and the premium pricing is ridiculous and sickening.
2. I can't imagine I'd ever pay for those prices for any show, concert or sporting event. I have now paid full price to see Hamilton 3x spread out over a year. I realize it is much harder now to get tickets then when I purchased these, with one set being box seats.
I'm not sure which is more egregious: the presale which eliminates many from the possibility of obtaining tix, the scams running to obtain the tickets specifically for re-sale, the scalping prices or the number of premium seats. Legal, sure - still doesn't make it "right".
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.