Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?- Page 4
Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
tkts
Broadway Star Joined: 8/26/03
#75re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 2:58pm
Disclaimer: I have not seen Brooklyn.
After hearing the songs at their web site and seeing the rehearsal at Broadway Beat and reading the Broadway Abridged version, I have a question. Do they just yell EVERY song? I mean, do they all sounds alike of is that just what they have released so far?
Cake or death?
TheGaIsSilent
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/25/04
#76re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 2:59pmThey don't yell any of the songs.
JOHN LITHGOW
I just realized, your last name is Butz! Both "Norbert" AND "Butz" are in your name! You must have gotten picked on a lot as a child!
tkts
Broadway Star Joined: 8/26/03
#77re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 3:03pmYou must be listening to a different show then.
Cake or death?
TheGaIsSilent
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/25/04
#78re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 3:09pmI don't THINK so.
JOHN LITHGOW
I just realized, your last name is Butz! Both "Norbert" AND "Butz" are in your name! You must have gotten picked on a lot as a child!
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#79re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 3:17pm
Please don't turn this into a cat-fight.
If you're wondering whether all the songs are all-out belt ballads like the ones on the CD...well, I imagine they are. I haven't heard any differently, even from the show's fans.
#80re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 3:22pmThere are a few that are tamer. I think they purposely put all of the "belters" on the sampler CD.
#81re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 3:26pmThere are tamer songs
Just give the world Love.
#82re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 3:29pm
I guess "songs where they dont yell" is what I mean.
"Magic Man" is one of them.
ponine24601
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/4/03
#83re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 3:42pm
is it espinoza or espinoSA? it's ESPINOSA!
sorry. that was rude. i apologize. it just bugs me so much! i'm sorry that you didn't enjoy the show.
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Benzy92
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/24/03
#84re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 6:50pmI have tix for October 29th.. Im starting to get worried :/
robbiej
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#85re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 6:52pm
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION:
Does Cleavant Derricks play BOTH Bustopher Jones and Gus/Growltiger, or is the role split up?
Thanks in advance!
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MargoChanning
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/5/04
#86re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 7:42pmI thought he was playing Skimbleshanks?
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GovernorSlaton
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/14/04
#87re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 7:58pm
Mmmm hmmm, that's him alright.
Amy Archer
Leading Actor Joined: 7/2/03
#88re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 8:03pmNo, no, he's Jimmythunderdots, the cat who thinks he's James Brown.
robbiej
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#89re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 9:38pmYa know, I did have a gumby cat in mind.
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iflitifloat
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/10/03
#90re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 10:44pm
Can we just go back to the plot, such as it is, for a moment? And there are SPOILERS in the questions I pose, so if you care about such things, stop reading now. I saw the show on Saturday, and these are some of the things about which I wonder...
How did two homeless street people with nothing better than garbage bags to wear as clothing manage to arrange to hold their battle for the hearts and minds (of whom???) in Madison Square Garden? Who arranged it? Who fronted the money? Who were the people who were going to pay to see the these two battle it out (for what, again?) and who was giving massive amounts of money to the winner, and why? And finally, on what planet is a little white girl's search for the unknown father going to become a cause celebré? She was unique because why?
And in my opinion there is a whole lot of high belting, much of it shrill. Ms. Espinosa has a beautiful voice when she's not pushing the envelope.
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#91re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/5/04 at 11:52pm
iflit,
I had the same questions about the final scene. If I remember, the winner of the contest would get $$ and a recording contract, and the loser would be basically kicked out of the business. Since when would two singers without a recording contract get to compete at MSG? And can't two singers co-exist on the planet?
Did not like this show. Great performers, but ugly set, ugly costumes and really annoying songs.
Corine2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/14/03
#92re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/6/04 at 12:01am
Why did they produce Brooklyn?
So darlings. Will the new hip clothing become hefty bags?
And what color garbage bags will be hip.
How about purple garbage bags with matching plastic bags.
OH LA LA. 
#93re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/6/04 at 12:05amCorine2- You should be a one woman show!
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Corine2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/14/03
#94re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/6/04 at 12:34am
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Phanty how very sweet of you.
Can we do a duet?
How about a threesome, you. Me. Eddie?
Dave might get jealous.
Updated On: 10/6/04 at 12:34 AM
Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#95re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/6/04 at 7:43am
No, no, Paradice is a huge star with a recording contract and a lot of money. Brooklyn is an up and coming star also presumably with a recording contract and a lot of money.
I loathed pretty much every minute of this show. Vile, self-righteous garbage.
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#96re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/6/04 at 7:53am
what the Brooklyn-ites will tell you, VEHEMENTLY, is that the plot is a story being told by homeless people who take on the roles of the characters... my question is, then, why not just hire homeless actors?
on NY1, this morning, Eden Espinosa said, referring to the songs, "It's not so much in the context of a story" and my immediate question was "then what's the point?" ... this lends much credence to Corine's opinion that this would be a story better told in a concert...
Corine2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/14/03
#97re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/6/04 at 8:02am
Thank you Joe,
It would work as a concert. In fact it would be terrific.
They need to get rid of that story. I think it could run for years if they just changed the story.
Why. The story is PATHETIC. It is the stars that carry the music.
I really think they should take this advice.
They have time to save this show.
Updated On: 10/6/04 at 08:02 AM
wickedfan2
Broadway Star Joined: 7/8/04
#98re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/6/04 at 9:23amifliti - You're asking questions as if the Bklyn story were Real...Its a FAIRY TALE being told by Cleavant and acted out by the homeless street performers... So it could be ANYTHING they make up...Fairy tales don't HAVE to be logical or make any sense..do they?
#99re: Brooklyn Is It a Paradise or Paradice?
Posted: 10/6/04 at 9:47amYes, in my opinion - they do have to make sense, otherwise they are pointless.
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
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