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Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
#50re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 11:04ammy school did beauty and the beast about 2 years ago. we were the first production of it in NH.
"I mean, sitting side by side with another man watching Patti LuPone play Rose in GYPSY on Broadway is essentially the equivalent of having hardcore sex." -Wanna Be A Foster.
"Say 'Goody.' Say 'Bubbi.'" ... "That's it. Exactly as if it were 'Goody.' Now I know you're gonna sing 'Goody' this time, but nevertheless..."
#51re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 11:08amThere are rules other then here are the rights go put the show on. If you live within a certain mile radius or Broadway you can't perform the show, and if you live ithin a certain mile radius of a tour stop you can't perform the show too close to when the tour will be ariving.
Dover
Leading Actor Joined: 4/29/06
#52re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 12:03pm
When I did a stock production of Beauty last year, we used this set from ZFX (http://www.zfxflying.com/bbrentals.html). If you look at it, especially at the castle, you will see that it looks very much like the Broadway set. Before going off to do the show, I spent a day with the Broadway company to pick up some pointers, and I specifically spent a lot of time walking on the castle. The ZFX castle is a little bit smaller (there's no room for the dungeon and the tunnel to be separate entrances), but otherwise to my eye it's exactly the same, with a slightly different paint job, but the same basic color scheme. We used some of their costumes, too and those looked pretty much like the Broadway ones, too.
I don't get into the legalities of rights and that kind of thing, but I can't imagine if it was illegal that they could be so high-profile about it. I'm not saying every community theatre production has paid for the rights to all the designs, but maybe there's an additional fee for that.
#53re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 12:06pm
ZFX is a great company.
When my high school did PETER PAN, THE WIZARD OF OZ, and FIDDLER ON THE ROOF, we would always fly the ZFX people in from Vegas and put them up in a hotel while they rigged everything for the flying effects.. It was always very fun. They're a great company.
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dancinfan
Broadway Star Joined: 8/9/04
#54re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 12:15pmDisney's two official national tours were 1995-1999 and 2000-2003. I am certain the that the first tour played the Dallas Summer Music Hall within its first two years, and I am pretty sure the second, smaller tour also played Texas at some point. Disney and MTI licensed the show very quickly after the second tour closed. Believe it or not, ticket sales at the Broadway production seemed to get better immediately after the licensing, perhaps because people who were producing or considering producing it wanted to see it. It has been done in hundreds and hundreds of professional, semi-pro, amateur, high school, community, and children's theatres across the country and around the world since. I have seen it a couple of different arena ("in the round") theatres, with varying degrees of success. I have seen it done professionally with lavish costumes and at a high school with costumes you could probably buy at any Halloween shop, and both were valid (occasionally troubled, occasionally brilliant) theatrical experiences. That's the joy of putting on a show, huh?
#55re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 12:29pm
I still love ya SLEETH, but....just to note...
We also rented very authentic looking costume for our production 3 years ago. They were identical to the ones used on Broadway.
Heck, you can even rent music CD's to supplement your smaller live ensemble.
Combine all these things with the ZFX sets and some pretty damn good local talent and it can easily rival the waning Broadway production in many ways...and for a quarter of the price!!!
If people want to buy something, Disney is more than happy sell it to them!
P.S. It's toured through Buffalo at LEAST twice now, and lots of high schools have presented it over the past 4-5 years too!
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#56re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 12:35pm
Is my original question THAT stupid?
Yes.
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#57re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 12:54pm
three theatre companies, six higshchools, and two regional companies near Syracuse have done this show. It's legal.
another way to check facts, and see if most of the BWW message board crew is really lying or not would be to go on MTI.com and look at the shows offered...
or just believing us...
that's a really big mic...
#58re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 12:57pm
My Highschool doing it:
http://www.shutterfly.com/progal/album.jsp?aid=768a5498cf4b02b5a5b3
"I mean, sitting side by side with another man watching Patti LuPone play Rose in GYPSY on Broadway is essentially the equivalent of having hardcore sex." -Wanna Be A Foster.
"Say 'Goody.' Say 'Bubbi.'" ... "That's it. Exactly as if it were 'Goody.' Now I know you're gonna sing 'Goody' this time, but nevertheless..."
#59re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 1:23pmB&tB has been on tour for a LONG time - it was at the Music Hall in Dallas twice, once as the State Fair show. Casa Manana did their own version of it 2 years ago and high schools all around Dallas have been doing it. DUH!
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sondhead
Broadway Star Joined: 10/25/06
#60re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 2:21pmHusk, I think he's talking about Garland Civic Theatre... and there's no defending them. They blow. I mean, Blaine Community Players if there ever was one.
#61re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 2:41pmI'm BUMPING this because IT PROVIDED so MUCH entertainment FOR ME last NIGHT!
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#62re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 2:43pm
They are doing an illegaly production...omg i am on the phone with MTI now....wah wah.
this reminds me of the time when a high school did "Titanic" near me and we had heard a rumor that "My Heart Will Go On" was added....we were going to call MTI at intermission...but it was not.
whoever put the link to the pics of their high school...that looks pretty good.
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Updated On: 5/26/07 at 02:43 PM
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#63re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 2:59pm
Any more of these posts? They are the best! Funnier than anything on TV, hands down.
I love the part where he claims "BUT NOT IN TEXASSS, AGHHH"
when the first production of Disney's Beauty and the Beast first saw the light of the universe in...
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#64re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 3:21pmtheaterdude, it was really good!
"I mean, sitting side by side with another man watching Patti LuPone play Rose in GYPSY on Broadway is essentially the equivalent of having hardcore sex." -Wanna Be A Foster.
"Say 'Goody.' Say 'Bubbi.'" ... "That's it. Exactly as if it were 'Goody.' Now I know you're gonna sing 'Goody' this time, but nevertheless..."
neddyfrank2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/05
#65re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 3:25pm
Must EVERY reply contain an insult? Is my original question THAT stupid? Forgive me. I had no idea that I would just come on here and be ridiculed to pieces! No offense, though. None taken. I got pretty familiar with all THAT the last time I was in New York!
Must EVERY reply contain an insult?
Yes.
Is my original question THAT stupid?
Yes.
I had no idea that I would just come on here and be ridiculed to pieces!
Ha!
#66re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 3:33pm
DUDE we're a BROADWAY board. BITTER queens CONSTANTLY come HERE to MAKE fun OF ignorant PEOPLE, and YOUR question NEEDED to BE mocked. THINK before YOU post.
(I wanted to see how many unnecessary capitalized words I could put in one post)
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TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#67re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 3:42pm
"whoever put the link to the pics of their high school...that looks pretty good."
That's nothing I would be proud of....
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-whatever2
#68re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 3:47pm
that is you.
i give people credit for costumes etc. for the show.
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TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#69re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 3:51pm
Yea, but I only do it for a living.
Obviously rented and the wigs are nasty...
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
#70re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 4:00pmum, im sure its a lot better than what most high schools would do.
"I mean, sitting side by side with another man watching Patti LuPone play Rose in GYPSY on Broadway is essentially the equivalent of having hardcore sex." -Wanna Be A Foster.
"Say 'Goody.' Say 'Bubbi.'" ... "That's it. Exactly as if it were 'Goody.' Now I know you're gonna sing 'Goody' this time, but nevertheless..."
TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#71re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 4:06pmSome, not most.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
husk_charmer
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/19/06
#72re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 4:09pm
Sondhead-
No, he was talking about Artisan, he told me in a PM>
Dallas Summer Musicals has had both the first and second national tours, and I think the second national came again last year or the year before. And I want to say Jodi Benson was playing Belle in the first national...or at least she was in town around that time for something.
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#73re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 4:12pm
Oh yes, belittling a high school production because it's so beneath what you do for a living... truly, very professional.
:: insert eye roll here ::
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SDav 10495
Broadway Star Joined: 7/21/06
#74re: Beauty & the Beast: Is It Even LEGAL?
Posted: 5/26/07 at 4:20pm
That's nothing I would be proud of....
Come on...it's one thing to ridicule a sh!twit who starts a thread like this, but there's no need to be a queen about someone's high school production (really, what on earth could be the point of taking jabs at a show that the kids obviously took pride in?). At least making fun of idiots is funny.
BroadwayEnthusiast2, I think your production looks great, and as someone who has seen quite a few HS productions here in the NY area I do think it easily looks better than what most schools would do (heck, your costumes are more interesting to look at than the ones at the BatB show in Disney World).
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Updated On: 5/26/07 at 04:20 PM
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